City launch legal action against the Premier League | Club & PL reach settlement | Proceedings dropped (p1147)

[willipp]

What time was he on? Will have to listen back.

He did 45 minutes pretty much from 10:30ish to 11:15.

 

[IrishBlueSince92]

Why's it us and not Newcastle taking this case against the league, is another question that I have

 

[Dave Ewing's Back 'eader]

The PL and the FA wrap stuff up to ensure that clubs don't go bust. Well, I think if any club went bust the queue to replace them would go round Wembers half a dozen times! And the PL would welcome them with open arms - two minutes after they have undergone the laughable notion of 'due diligence'!

 

[KS55]

It’s does seem odd that the premier league can go beyond related party with this associated party. Not sure how different the rules are.

I have read those rules. Apart from appalling drafting which makes them very hard to understand, they appear to catch sponsorships on flimsy ground such as sponsor based in same country as owners, ie “We know they are friends of yours, so it’s associated.” The rags marine engine sponsors need challenging on this basis.

 

[SilverFox2]

I think if City can land their allegations of discriminatory actions by the EPL it must weaken their 115 allegations against the club. Although the allegations will stand or fall on evidence, there are real questions to be answered around the framing (i.e. weaponising) of the charges, the advance briefing to Ziegler (to hit the press as City were still being advised of the charges) in terms of how it came to be done that way, who authorised it and why etc. We have been singled out for "special treatment" and I'd guess there will be a good amount of evidence. Pep calling out Levy happened for a reason.
It will definitely place even more pressure on Rosen's panel to give City a fair hearing. A very smart move by City imo.

Last para really be a good point.
A bit like Mr M against the HOC they will have difficulty simply disregarding any points City brought up legally.
Whilst I think the Panel will be fair I remember that despite overwhelming points in City favour one of the CAS voted against a 3 - 0.

 

[Dave Ewing's Back 'eader]

Why's it us and not Newcastle taking this case against the league, is another question that I have

The PL have been giving us a kicking since we won the first pot in 2011, and have not ceased since. City might think it's time to kick back!

Why did Masters fuck off to The Emirates on the last day? Tells you everything. Had it been Liverpool or MANUre who were in the driving seat for the title would he have been at The Emirates then?

 

[bluemoon32]

Didn't hear the interview with Stefan, is it true he reckons we'll lose the case ?

 

[halfcenturyup]

It’s does seem odd that the premier league can go beyond related party with this associated party. Not sure how different the rules are.

Very

 

[MeatnSpudsMCFC]

Didn't hear the interview with Stefan, is it true he reckons we'll lose the case ?

If so, we'll look incredibly silly in the end.

 

[CC1]

Didn't hear the interview with Stefan, is it true he reckons we'll lose the case ?

Not really - just said it would be difficult BUT nobody has seen the full paperwork - just a selection from a biased reporter

 

[BlueMoonAcrossThePond]

Just throwing this out there, but is there a way that us losing this 'challenge' but then winning the '115' battle kind of works out well for both us and the PL?

I don't follow...

So we lose the challenge, meaning that the charges against us are at least on firm legal ground... and in spite of this, the PL subsequently lose their case against us? And this works to "save face" for the PL?

 

[Ray bloody Purchase]

Possibly because it’s the rags.

I have to admit, my mindset is changing from my first and most obvious candidate, the Geordies, the press wouldn’t bat an eyelid throwing them to the wolves with us

 

[tweety]

Didn't hear the interview with Stefan, is it true he reckons we'll lose the case ?

He based his argument on the balance of probabilities however he said that was just on the available information which was the leaked Times story

 

[KS55]

Why's it us and not Newcastle taking this case against the league, is another question that I have

Because Khaldoon is willing to pay whatever it costs to blast these bastards out of the water. Make no mistake, he will succeed.

 

[Shazza458]

Not really - just said it would be difficult BUT nobody has seen the full paperwork - just a selection from a biased reporter

Surely the club must be privy to evidence we aren’t? If not I’d seriously question the legal advice the club are receiving

 

[swinton blue]

Just asking a question regarding sponsorship and owner related companies.
Obviously our sponsorship is looked at and then decided if it fair market value by an independent company.
Am I right in saying that for example Emirates can sponsor arsenal for let's say 500 mil a year and this doesn't have to be looked at because Emirates don't not have anything to do with owning arsenal or are all sponsorship deals looked at by this independent company?

 

[KS55]

I have to admit, my mindset is changing from my first and most obvious candidate, the Geordies, the press wouldn’t bat an eyelid throwing them to the wolves with us

We joke about scruffy Jim and the rags are an obvious target for us, but Jim could turn out to be an unlikely ally.

 

[Roachy]

If some of our own fans don’t understand why we have done what we have done, what chance does an uneducated idiot fan from another club have. Many in society now believe everything they read without having the slightest idea of thinking for themselves and challenging the narrative that is being written and why. Give me strength.
Anyway, for what it’s worth. I think it’s a good move, it’s a stand, we’re not being rode over roughshod without a fight. We may win, we may not but we’ve put a marker down and as for the 115, what will be, will be.
I’ll be there whatever the result.
CTID

It's alarming where so many people go to in order to form their knowledge base, it really is. Obviously a lot of them seek out stuff to support their preconceptions, but so many are far too easily bluffed.

 

[Ray bloody Purchase]

We joke about scruffy Jim and the rags are an obvious target for us, but Jim could turn out to be an unlikely ally.

I prefer to call him Chelsea Jim……..the rags I know don’t like it

 

[ArniArason]

Fans are entitled to criticize the club, or at least ask questions of them or doubt them. In my opinion.
We've been defending them to the hilt for the last 8-10 years now in the face of accusation after accusation.
That's not me saying that I haven't been doing my best in defending my club the past 24 hours!
In lay mans terms, its quite hard to put a good argument favouring City in terms of yesterday's news.

We are allowed to stop and ask, why have we done this, it doesn't look good etc.

This is a really worrying post as it means that the media propaganda has actually started to make some blues doubt.

People are being brainwashed into believing that the rules and related charges pushed on teams including us are somehow fair and ethical and put into place to protect us all, created by individuals who are inherently good and caring. And as result, anyone who challenges these rules must be corrupt and or untrustworthy as they are acting against these ethical rules set up by good people.

Now what if I blow your mind and push the notion that those creating these rules are in fact the very opposite of good and their rules are far from ethical, but rather put in place to protect their own empires from stronger more determined owners, owners who are willing to invest in their own products rather than trying to stop their competitors investing in theirs.

City are not the bad guys here, the bad guys are making the rules and forcing others by either sheer force or propaganda to implement and abide by those rules, rules to keep them in their little boxes.

Those who claim this view is pure fantasy and paranoia need look no further than Manchester United and Liverpool privately vetting the incoming head of the Premier League unbeknown to any of their rivals.

Make no mistake about it friend, the red shirt clubs have been pulling all the strings for decades, people have just been too brainwashed to see it