City launch legal action against the Premier League | Club & PL reach settlement | Proceedings dropped (p1147)

[Skrastins]

Is it yet another indicator of the 115 charges about to be dropped ????

no, different matter

 

[IrishBlueSince92]

Is it yet another indicator of the 115 charges about to be dropped ????

How on earth have you reached that conclusion?

 

[Lovebitesandeveryfing]

Let me be clear that I will follow my club through thick and thin and trust them on most decisions they make (I could not honestly say that I approved of all decisions in the past, and it would be a lie to say I did. To take a spectacularly divisive example, had the Super League gone ahead, for instance, it is with a very heavy heart that I would have given up football. After nearly sixty years, I would have been sad beyond imagining. In my heart I still would have been a City fan, because you have no choice about these things. But with my feet I would have been a fan of no-one).

Certainly on this one I follow them and are fully behind them.

There's a lot of sabre rattling going on here. It's easy on a forum.

Now if the club have decided to go ahead with taking on the PL under the law, you can be absolutely sure that this has been carefully weighed up and meditated.
But let's be grown-ups. We could lose this. Just saying. The club certainly doesn't expect to, its legal advisors certainly don't expect to, otherwise we wouldn't be going to the law. But the PL represents vested interests — indeed, as we have always seen only too clearly — it was set up right from the start by and for those interests, and then there was a bunch of clubs who went along with it, unknowingly at the time, as stooges.
If you go to the law against vested interests, you may well lose.
Historically, the law has represented those interests. Sometimes, you get justice with the law. But the convergence is imperfect.
Just saying what I felt needed to be said at this point on this thread. Now let's give them a fucking good fight…

 

[HelloCity]

I don't live outside Manchester and I feel close to the club but mostly agree with @OntarioBlue. However I will be doing my utmost, albeit with limited understanding of what the heckle meckle is happening as I've been the proverbial burying my head in the sand at accusations against us, because I trust the powers that be at the club, to defend Manchester City against all detractors and enemies.
Donning my City kit and badges and battening down the hatches as we speak!! ;-) :-)



Sorry not meaning to be flippant but it's been a bad week all round. :-)

If you feel the same as them are you able to clarify this point:

I don’t really want to see a league where the team with the deepest pockets wins all the prizes.

Football has been like this for decades. In fact the current financial rules make it more likely the teams at the top will stay there, so please could you state why it’s bad that City challenge such rules from a legal perspective?

 

[Coatigan]

Again regarding the last point, what definite proof of this is there?

Never mind proof, what need was there to do it? FFP didn't exist when he was appointed, to what benefit would they have paid him on the side at that time?

 

[freshie]

Surely it couldn’t be the case that what is supposed to be confidential information has been leaked to a newspaper and reported by someone who happens to be married to an executive at one of the clubs affected by it?

 

[bumbleblue]

C’mon City! Let’s ‘av at ‘em.

 

[Centurions]

Have you got a quote etc anywhere

 

[mattcity5]

So, one thing I’m struggling to grasp: What is the difference between the APT regulations made in 2021, and the amendment made to them in Feb this year, that’s made the club react?

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New financial control measures agreed by Premier League clubs in England aim to bring greater transparency to their financial arrangements – but further guidance is needed on their implementation.

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Not sure if this gives what you're after, but it's a decent explanation of the basics.

 

[dadnlad]

we will look a bit stupid if we dont win this specific case. hope we have some damning proof otherwise why make all the fuss. it would question the legal advice we are getting which then wouldnt bode well for the big case in October-November.

we havent made a fuss as you call it at present its the media ( cartel mates) ssn and talkshite. city have challanged a rule change which we've called unlawful and told them in february we'd challange it and it was behind closed doors and nobody wouldve known any different until yet again it's leaked and its big bad manchester city. and legal advice the same KC if fighting both cases

 

[halfcenturyup]

Have you got a quote etc anywhere

You still haven't found the APT rules in the handbook six months later?

 

[Centurions]

Is it yet another indicator of the 115 charges about to be dropped ????

No.

 

[Eccles Blue]

If you feel the same as them are you able to clarify this point:

I don’t really want to see a league where the team with the deepest pockets wins all the prizes.

Football has been like this for decades. In fact the current financial rules make it more likely the teams at the top will stay there, so please could you state why it’s bad that City challenge such rules from a legal perspective?

I said MOSTLY agree, that is one point I puzzle over because I know it has gone on in the past. Rancid meat to schools being one case in point ;-)
Nowhere have I said that I think it is bad that City are challenging, I have made a point of saying that I will defend the club.
My original question still stands though, although you may not have seen my earlier post. Basically are we going to a law court or a tribunal? (My posting was a lot longer than that but that is what it boiled down to.) :-)

 

[cheekybids]

It begs the question, if as Stefan said we are very unlikely to win this case, why have the club taken it on?

Sometimes you can win by losing. If victory is considered the change of the rules being halted then we may fail but if the real intention is to highlight corruption & drag others into investigations then we’ll know soon.

 

[Skrastins]

will be out at 1pm. And on Youtube in pieces later I suspect.

thank you.

just watched it. great interview as always.

 

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Another associated party …..

 

[Centurions]

I thought it was decided previously by UEFA that the Etihad sponsorship was at arm's length so they were not an associated party hence would not be affected by those Rules? Are the PL rules with regard to who is or isn't an associated party different to UEFA?

It was related party, that's why City are doing this due to the changes to the rules where they use their version and called it associated party which seems to mean if you're from the same region (but not the USA obviously).

 

[halfcenturyup]

Did we pay Mancini off the books from another account - probably yes.

Was it illegal? Was it against PL rules at the time? Did we meet FFP because of it?

What's the problem?

 

[Eccles Blue]

Sometimes you lose a battle to win the war. :-)

 

[Joe Donachie]

Can somebody explain to me why this hearing next week is taking place in Harrogate? Why there? Proper random that.