City launch legal action against the Premier League | Club & PL reach settlement | Proceedings dropped (p1147)

Yeah same, I'm juat saying, I see his point (a couple here suggested similar themselves, based purely on how people read what is available). And, it is his opinion which he is entitled to.

It’s fair to say I hope he’s wrong. :-) (for once)
 
Didn't the Times article say that the PL had shared it with all 19 clubs to get their input before the hearing?
Don't remember that. The Times claimed that 10 to 12 clubs might be witnesses for the PL. I can't imagine anything more stupid if the PL did share City's confidential legal documents with all the PL clubs (who are all our commercial rivals). The issue has always been that some (but not all) club Directors have been kept in the loop throughout the case.
 
Don't remember that. The Times claimed that 10 to 12 clubs might be witnesses for the PL. I can't imagine anything more stupid if the PL did share City's confidential legal documents with all the PL clubs (who are all our commercial rivals). The issue has always been that some (but not all) club Directors have been kept in the loop throughout the case.

the PL just doing as they are told by the hierarchy
 
I think its relatively clear what City mean by the 'majority of tyranny" stuff.
Clearly the redshirted shithouses have been cajoling the lesser lights in the league every time a vote to implement the next raft of anti-city rules into existence.
As sure as eggs are eggs there will have been veiled threats of refusal of loan players, or carrots of more loan players on agreeable terms and plenty of cosying up and promises of favours etc to get them to vote in favour of these shitty rules that punish us and or Newcastle and have little effect on others.
The indication of damages must relate to the PL having already kiboshed one or more deals that CIty have put through their system under these new Associated Party Rules whilst likely allowing one of the yank owners to sail through with similar size of sponsorships.
Democratic voting is all well and good unless it is being manipulated by a cohort of clubs with a jointly vested interest.
 
I really don't know my arse from my elbow, as a rule, 20th Century Doctor Who excepted!

However it's pretty standard not to comment on ongoing legal matters so I think we'll keep our powder dry for when we're up before the beak!

Standard Chartered's MO has been an open secret since the early 2000s, typical yellow reporting on this. The contrast with how this would have been reported if these were our sponsors.............

It's beggars belief that it's a coincidence that the story of City seeking legal redress against sponsorship rules that appear to be illegal come out on the same day as the latest revelations about the dippers despicable sponsors. The idea is untenable, logic points to a leak.

Who gains from this?

Not us, CFG always do their talking behind closed doors, the whole ham fisted times article has a noticeable antipathy towards City.

Who have a track record in leaking like a tart's knickers, during uefa, during CAS and during the PL's present witch hunt?

Perhaps someone who wants to deflect attention from the own sordid sponsors?!? Trouble is, even us twats in Blue Moon's finest can see through their desperate last throw of the dice.

Far from being an intimidating tactic to put us in our subservient place, it's a transparent ploy. I'm guessing legal types won't take kindly to confidentiality being so easily disregarded.

Putting 2+2 together and making 5, to me it seems the noises about the 115 aren't sounding promising for the cartel. There's a limit where eventually even the most gammon of gammons is going to stop saying - 115 they must be guilty of something!!!!!!

Also remember Brummie prat sam lee saying that either Ferran or Twixi were jokingly referred to as "the terrorists???? This was at a gathering of Premier League Directors, I think.

Is that because they as Spanish citizens didn't have pale skin / eyes / hair like their British/American counterparts?! Bit of a stretch, you say?

Maybe it's easier to call these people "terrorists" as they work for people from a Gulf State? Either way, dog whistle racism, presented as a joke.

We have yet another epic battle to fight, amongst many. We simply can't afford to lose. I do trust in the people who run our club and they are very smart, compared to those hellbent on trying to destroy us.

City till I die.
 
Don't remember that. The Times claimed that 10 to 12 clubs might be witnesses for the PL. I can't imagine anything more stupid if the PL did share City's confidential legal documents with all the PL clubs (who are all our commercial rivals). The issue has always been that some (but not all) club Directors have been kept in the loop throughout the case.
Re read the claim regarding the 10-12 clubs it states them 10-12 are either a witness for us or the prem
 
Is there any aspect of the press or broadcast media that sits on any other side of the fence?
It's not in their interest to sit on any side of the fence other than that of the red tops side.

The media in this country have been so embroiled with the likes of the rags, Liverpool and Arsenal for so long that they cannot imagine a future without them.

The British Broadcasting media and written press is limping to its own demise. Times are changing and the old guard is losing its grip.

Their sole purpose is to set the narrative in the vain hope that they can stop MCFC and drive us out of the league. This so called negative press is about as much use as an ashtray on a motorbike.

The club is going from strength to strength, the trophy haul is growing annually and the fan base is spreading expediently.

The only people who don't like us (apart from those in the media) are the Rags, Dippers and tarquins.

My guess is we're we're doing just fine. The narrative however, would have you believe otherwise.
 
I don’t know. It makes sense, but Stefan seems to indicate it may be Newcastle.

It might have been put up already, but does anyone have a list of the teams that voted against the new rule in February?
hard to find on google but this article reckons Villa, City and Utd voted against and Chelsea abstained?

 
Don't remember that. The Times claimed that 10 to 12 clubs might be witnesses for the PL. I can't imagine anything more stupid if the PL did share City's confidential legal documents with all the PL clubs (who are all our commercial rivals). The issue has always been that some (but not all) club Directors have been kept in the loop throughout the case.
Yeah, having re-read it, it doesn't say they shared the document in full...

"In his letter to clubs on March 1, Plumb detailed the nature of City’s legal challenge under Section X of the Premier League rules.

Plumb explained how the Premier League had to secure an order that enabled it to disclose the details of the arbitration to its member clubs and confirm that it was indeed City who had filed a claim. “The purpose of this letter is to provide those further details, within the bounds of the confidentiality of the proceedings, and to confirm the process by which any club may participate in the arbitration,” Plumb states."
 
I work with a Forest fan who's obsessed with this. Every morning I do a handover from nights with him, the same shite: How come City haven't been punished then? I say to him, mate, why are you so focused on us and not the people who have attacked you?

Also, why do you think I care? It's got nothing to do with me. Because I wear a blue shirt that means I'm here for you to attack me with your financial fair play hate? Absolutely nothing to do with me. I like watching goals go in the net, keepers save goals, beautiful passes across the pitch and celebrating when we win.

None of this has anything to do with me. I supported City before this, support them now and will forever. Cunts going on like its Hitler Versus the Jews and I decided to support Hitler.

Mental isn't it. I did a little thread on twitter about how done I am with it all. It's just exhausting. I don't think some realise how much it's crossed over into real life for some of us. I'm aware that personally I have a bit of a platform due to my YouTube stuff so my experiences won't be the same as many, but ill never get used to random strangers bringing it up to me in public. It's wild. I've had grown men shout 115 at me. A guy working at a train station even asked me about it when I was trying to board a train. Bring the back days of just chatting shit about footballers instead.
 
Mental isn't it. I did a little thread on twitter about how done I am with it all. It's just exhausting. I don't think some realise how much it's crossed over into real life for some of us. I'm aware that personally I have a bit of a platform due to my YouTube stuff so my experiences won't be the same as many, but ill never get used to random strangers bringing it up to me in public. It's wild. I've had grown men shout 115 at me. A guy working at a train station even asked me about it when I was trying to board a train. Bring the back days of just chatting shit about footballers instead.
Could you link or message me to this.
 
I work with a Forest fan who's obsessed with this. Every morning I do a handover from nights with him, the same shite: How come City haven't been punished then? I say to him, mate, why are you so focused on us and not the people who have attacked you?

Also, why do you think I care? It's got nothing to do with me. Because I wear a blue shirt that means I'm here for you to attack me with your financial fair play hate? Absolutely nothing to do with me. I like watching goals go in the net, keepers save goals, beautiful passes across the pitch and celebrating when we win.

None of this has anything to do with me. I supported City before this, support them now and will forever. Cunts going on like its Hitler Versus the Jews and I decided to support Hitler.
Fuck him
 
Listen if City want to hire me as a spokesman that is one thing. If I am giving a good faith opinion (with caveats) I will say what I want to say. Cheers

Listen if City want to hire me as a spokesman that is one thing. If I am giving a good faith opinion (with caveats) I will say what I want to say. Cheers
God forbid they ever hire you in any capacity again other than to trawl through the accounts. We’d still have mark Hughes as manager and mangala at centre back given views I’ve heard you express in the past.

Thing about Stef is, he’s just a fan and prone to bias with certain things just like the rest of us. His opinion, just like anyone else’s is equally valid and invalid.

No one knows what is going on in the very top echelons. But I’ll tell you this, we’re run by people who don’t fuck about, and certainly don’t enter into legal battles they don’t expect to win.

There’s only one result coming here - total vindication.
 
Mental isn't it. I did a little thread on twitter about how done I am with it all. It's just exhausting. I don't think some realise how much it's crossed over into real life for some of us. I'm aware that personally I have a bit of a platform due to my YouTube stuff so my experiences won't be the same as many, but ill never get used to random strangers bringing it up to me in public. It's wild. I've had grown men shout 115 at me. A guy working at a train station even asked me about it when I was trying to board a train. Bring the back days of just chatting shit about footballers instead.
Its mental. I was thinking today how boring and draining the whole fuckin thing is.
 
Yeah, having re-read it, it doesn't say they shared the document in full...

"In his letter to clubs on March 1, Plumb detailed the nature of City’s legal challenge under Section X of the Premier League rules.

Plumb explained how the Premier League had to secure an order that enabled it to disclose the details of the arbitration to its member clubs and confirm that it was indeed City who had filed a claim. “The purpose of this letter is to provide those further details, within the bounds of the confidentiality of the proceedings, and to confirm the process by which any club may participate in the arbitration,” Plumb states."
So probably a brief summary was circulated in March to let clubs know the timescales etc. The Times say they have a 165-page submission document from City seven days before the hearing. It's possible they have got it before the Judges have seen it. If so that is a major issue for the PL. It has been the same MO from day 1. A strategic leak to a friendly press contact followed by distorted and biased media coverage. This is just corruption in plain sight from a body which is supposed to operate as a regulator.
 
Just joining a few possible dots. In his end of season talk Khaldoon was clearly looking forward to City participating in next year's Club world cup. But as Acadmica pointed out earlier to me with a link, the PL have made it public that they don't think next year's Club World Cup is a good idea, based on the fact that players need a break. I am assuming that if the PL vote on it, the two thirds majority could cancel PL clubs participation.

However as I understand it only City and Chelsea would qualify for it. If they were to participate they would gain over £100m in prize money. So its not in the interest of the other clubs to let them participate. The 'tyranny of the majority' comes in as pointed out again by Academica!

Chelsea and City and their players should be able to decide if they want to participate. Not Daniel Levy, Tom Werner, Jim Ratclife, Stan Kroenke, etc etc, etc

However, compare this to the FA and PL stance 24 year's ago, when Utd were not only encouraged to go to the Club World Cup, but were given special dispensation to not take part in the FA Cup that year. Utd clearly only wanted to take part in the Club World Cup, as it meant more money to them than participating in the FA Cup. This is clearly double standards in my mind.

So the current voting system can clearly be used to disadvantage a minority of clubs, when it suits them.
The FA are members of FIFA I’m pretty sure that City are obligated to play as the UCL
2023 winners PL ultimately are licensed by The FA
 

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