City launch legal action against the Premier League | Club & PL reach settlement | Proceedings dropped (p1147)

I totally disagree. Any statement would be misinterpreted, twisted and seized upon.

City have kept shtum and quite rightly IMHO

Let them mouth off, give them enough rope and they'll hang themselves.

There is a highly dubious video documentary on YouTube which I have ripped into here:


What I missed out above (and ought to add) is that half way through the video the former FD of UEFA is shown saying FFP was only introduced to stop Mamchester City. If this is true, it undermines the claims Platini made to the EU to ensure FFP didn't breach European Law ie he lied to them. The knock on is UEFA FFP could be challenged and overturned. Thus the EPL PSR rules would then undermine English clubs in Europe.

As I say, let them talk, let them contradict themselves and hang themselves. If City don't comment they're limiting further attacks.

WHAT WE NEED TO DO, AS CITY FANS, ALL OVER THE INTERNET, IS SUPPORT OUR CLUB NOT JISTVPOST ON HERE.

We all have social media accounts and many have our own websites and we can all post links in comments of other sites too.

I've done my bit by publishing my website attacking this rubbish. Please support it by linking to it. Of course support other pro City sites and articles by linking to them too.

Support our club by posting comments and links across all Social.Media, websites etc. The more we do the more impartial fans will be aware that there are two sides to this story.

I am annoyed lol really I am!
An interesting snippet from the rebuttal, is the following:
‘Then it is claimed Sheik Mansour is the Deputy Prime Minister (since 2009) and Vice President (since 2023) of the UAE. They don’t mention that he was in neither of these roles when he bought the club in 2008. So the video is now portraying City as being owned by the country of the UAE, not even the state of Abu Dhabi.’

We all know that Sheikh Mansoor bought City with his own wealth, I think an additional point to ram home to the ‘state owned’ fantasy mob, is that in 2008 he had nothing to do with UAE state running either - which is what Delaney et al constantly still claim.
 
I don't think this framing is unique or special, just came across my timeline, but I think it is as succinct as possible about what is driving so many fans and journalists on this issue.

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Klopp was engaging in it too on his sendoff.

For arguments sake, let's say those advocating for this are actually serious. The bulk of the charges come pre-2018, before Guardiola-era started, so any actual titles would not be awarded to Arsenal.
 
I can't understand why some would abstain on something so fundamental to the finance of the game. They don't deserve to have a vote IMHO.
Because they are shit scared of the American red shirted cartel
Similar to the pl and the dippers.

Money money money this is the route cause of all this, even the prick Jordan finishes his long winded opinions with this.

There’s barely a single journalist having the balls to be even slightly impartial because of this.

Slaughter city and watch the clicks and money roll in.

Talkshite has now become a mouthpiece of anti city agenda and even employ cunts like goldbridge who publicly called us cheating cunts!!

Unfortunately we live in a world dominated by greed and whatever the truths of the subject matter if there’s money to be made
These organisations will capitalise on it.

We’ve literally got every journalist, newspaper, sport stories, podcasts, YouTube vids, and almost every fan in the country and abroad against us every fucking day.

Without stefan at least trying to be impartial we’d have nothing right now.

I truly hope we come out of this unscathed
And go after some of the libelous bastards.
 
Just had a mooch on RAWK.

They’re frantically trying to sort out a situation where them, the rags, Arsenal and Spurs either

a) refuse to take part and “go somewhere else and start our own league up”.

Or

b) all flounce off from the PL and join the EFL.

Even their ideas mean more.
I presume that if their clubs all flounce off to the States entirely, lock, stock & barrel, they'll all be very happy about that?
 
Yep.

Obviously Chelsea were always going to vote one way on that, but for there to be a majority... I can only think many are going to copy what Chelsea have done now.
Perhaps it's as much because of the wide ranging remit that the PL keep introducing. It could be used to literally block anything that they want or (perhaps more importantly) told to block.
 
The whole episode was shameful, and a bad misjudgement by City. There’s no getting away from that, but we very slightly redeemed ourselves by being the first club to pull out IMO. United, Liverpool and Arsenal were the driving forces from within the English game, and let’s face it, the only reason they pulled out was because it was a PR disaster. Everything they do to this day indicates that they would love nothing more than an opportunity to reignite the idea, if they could get away with it.
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Red shirts and their bitch pulling out on same day
Nah there’s no cartel
 
An interesting snippet from the rebuttal, is the following:
‘Then it is claimed Sheik Mansour is the Deputy Prime Minister (since 2009) and Vice President (since 2023) of the UAE. They don’t mention that he was in neither of these roles when he bought the club in 2008. So the video is now portraying City as being owned by the country of the UAE, not even the state of Abu Dhabi.’

We all know that Sheikh Mansoor bought City with his own wealth, I think an additional point to ram home to the ‘state owned’ fantasy mob, is that in 2008 he had nothing to do with UAE state running either - which is what Delaney et al constantly still claim.

Deputy Prime Minister is a low down ceremonial role with no actual power. It just sounds fancy, which is the point.

Vice President is a very powerful role and Mansour was put into that as part of a powerplay by his brother against the Al Maktoum family.

Suggesting we're owned by the UAE is absolutely bonkers and absolutely false. Suggesting we're owned by Abu Dhabi is less bonkers and false. It's fair to say that we were purchased by Sheikh Mansour personally but are an asset of the Al-Nayhan family. The word is that one of his sons, likely Sheikh Hamdan (think hes about 14 now), will be joining the board once they've finished all their schooling and what have you. He's been a fan since birth and has been to quite a lot of City games around the world. Sheikh Mansour is a huge football fan and sports are one of the ways that he seems to spend time with his kids. It has long been rumoured that he wants City to be a thing passed down through his personal family.

My old man used to take me fishing.
 
When I see that, I am even more inclined to believe that City only went in with it, to bring it crashing down on the first day. A very calculated high risk strategy by City, that paid off, if it was the case.
No. It was a complete and total clusterfuck from the club.
They saw the £££$$$ signs and jumped on board. It was all
about money. Fuck the fans. Fuck the league and it's structure,
show us the money. Exactly the same for all of the clubs involved,
and no different for us. And as for allowing Joel Glazer to publish
an article on the official club website to both defend and support
the project is, for me, unforgivable. Sometimes you can't defend
the indefensible just because its our club.
 
Had a little conversation with a Rag neighbour last night he said " It's going to ruin the PL and football if you win your case"
Me " Why"
Him " It's getting like Scotland you've won it 6 out of the last 7, it's become unfair"
Me " How fair was it in the 90s when you won it 7 or 8 times with 2 trebles in that?"
Him " Yeh but we brought kids from our academy through"
Me " Foden Lewis Bobb Hamilton just to name a few, and you also just took most of your academy players from other clubs"
Me " Do you think it's right to discriminate? these rules were brought in to stop certain clubs"
Him " It's not fair though it's going to ruin football"
Me " these rules are to stop other clubs challenging the PL cartel, you lot Arsenal Liverpool and Chelsea"
Him " But you have a State backing you and endless pots of money"
Me " You have spent more than us a lot more than us, it's not all abut the money it's also how you use it"
Him " I've got to go my lads coming home later".

They all seem to have the same shallow limited argument, I know very little about the 115 charges but I'm 100% behind this action.
 
If you look at the ethnicity of four of the clubs affected it really says it all , ourselves , Geordies ,Forest and Leicester are from foreign climes with different colour skin , the biggest influence on the Premier league are the Rags ,Dippers Goons all owned by Yanks , and then you look at Chelsea who have admitted issues from a previous owner but are now owned by Yanks and it appears to have all gone quiet regarding their potential punishment
"No room for racism" the much promoted Premier league logo , perhaps they should practice what they preach.
As conspiracy theories go , its provokes some thought.
Smokescreens from the Premier league
 
No. It was a complete and total clusterfuck from the club.
They saw the £££$$$ signs and jumped on board. It was all
about money. Fuck the fans. Fuck the league and it's structure,
show us the money. Exactly the same for all of the clubs involved,
and no different for us. And as for allowing Joel Glazer to publish
an article on the official club website to both defend and support
the project is, for me, unforgivable. Sometimes you can't defend
the indefensible just because its our club.

Many of us have a different opinion but, unless the facts come out we'll never know. In the meantime, I'll stick with Florentino Perez's inside view;

“There was one of the English clubs who didn’t seem so interested and that spread to the rest. They signed the contract but we could already see that that they were not convinced. And then the avalanche started, the Premier League ‘heating things up’. They said: ‘We’re going to pull out for now.’ There was a club that you could tell wasn’t as interested but they worked with us and signed up.”
Although he had said he would not name the club, when he was asked if it was Manchester City Pérez said: “The one from Manchester saw the campaign saying this will kill the leagues, that it won’t allow [sporting] merit, that it was the end of football. There are people who have privileges and don’t want to lose them, even if it ruins football. When the English called me [on Tuesday], we met to see what we could do. They tried, but said: ‘Look, we’re not going to do this.’”
 
So the new rules on sponsorship they are trying to push through. If City wanted to be sponsored by a Uae company going forward they can’t because of the location of the owner. However another Premier League club can if their owner isn’t in that country. If so that’s surely uncompetitive giving some clubs access to commercial deals where other clubs can’t. That stinks and I can understand why City and other clubs are pushing back on this.
 
Well said. I have time and time again on here: City reply to a paper headline instantly is misrepresented on the next day back page and so it goes on. We would just be doing their job for them. Keeping quiet deprived them of the oxygen of the fire. I know we, as fans, don't like it but the best thing we can do is refuse to participate by not buying papers, not listening and responding to Talksh1te etc. We now have a very large, and growing every day, fan base. Advertisers on these media will start to demand a more positive attitude towards us and for us to be shown more as we are becoming more and more famous. The Boss has already mentioned it, we are the most watched club in the US already and businesses will more and more want to be associated with us and will demand to be shown more.

This latest debacle by the PL is them trying to protect the red shirts and will ultimately fail as it will damage the PL.

My post on wishing the Club made a statement was on the day the story came out.

However I've repeatedly said a statement was just a small part.

I think that the clubs PR is terrible. There's no presence in the media from anyone fighting back against the blatant lies.

I mean we've had so called journalists saying this week that City will destroy football as we know it... and there's zero pushback.

The vitriol against the club is unlike anything in football I've ever seen. They're whipping up hatred based on complete lies.

Then these same journalists are frequently at the Etihad and our media team are friends with them.

So i would like City to do more in the media to fight back. As of right now, that's left completely for fans to do, and I don't think that's right.
 
Are we actually sure there is any real talk of a new rule that stops Etihad or any other UAE company from sponsoring us? Or was it just mentioned by one guy in one podcast?
 
I listened to the Podcast but must have missed the references to the backdating of the rules. Does anyone have a timestamp?
I don't think that's right. He was talking about something else right after the Newcastle takeover when all the cartel clubs were panicking. Remember? In the end it never happened iirc.
 

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