City launch legal action against the Premier League | Club & PL reach settlement | Proceedings dropped (p1147)

Rory Bluelow said:
You’d expect any competent CEO to “read the room” of his twenty shareholders and basically know where the votes would go on contentious matters. He’s a fucking clown and has presided over/caused chaos.
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The problem being that Masters is neither competent nor impartial, seeing that he was appointed following approval from the rags and dippers.

The fact that other candidates declined to accept the post, suggests that everything was possibly not above board, and their principles would not allow them to take the job.

Masters, on the other hand, seemed to have no qualms about being used as a puppet to carry out the cabal's wishes, however corrupt or distorted.
 
halfcenturyup said:
For anyone interested.



He did a good job pooh-poohing most of the nonsense, but at the end he missed the chance to shut the noise about the EFL deal up. Shame that.

Chapman was OK. Logan had no idea.
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Am I right in thinking that if City win, the world doesn't end, and we (English football) reverts to the situation as it was before the February ammendment kicked in?

By which I mean that clubs are only allowed to spend what they earn (from sponsorship, broadcast, matchday and competition prize money) and FMV is determined by the same calculation that UEFA use?

I suppose that's a question for any of our experts but you seem to have a good handle on all this and I didn,'t think that came across in the podcast.
 
GortonBlue62 said:
Am I right in thinking that if City win, the world doesn't end, and we (English football) reverts to the situation as it was before the February ammendment kicked in?

By which I mean that clubs are only allowed to spend what they earn (from sponsorship, broadcast, matchday and competition prize money) and FMV is determined by the same calculation that UEFA use?

I suppose that's a question for any of our experts but you seem to have a good handle on all this and I didn,'t think that came across in the podcast.
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No, they said on Talk Shite that if city win this case our owners could sponsor Phil Fodens left sock for a billion pounds & it would be the end of football as we know it! Keep up :-)
 
What’s this I read that the legal costs for the premiership may inpact financial support for the lower leagues?
 
GortonBlue62 said:
Am I right in thinking that if City win, the world doesn't end, and we (English football) reverts to the situation as it was before the February ammendment kicked in?

By which I mean that clubs are only allowed to spend what they earn (from sponsorship, broadcast, matchday and competition prize money) and FMV is determined by the same calculation that UEFA use?

I suppose that's a question for any of our experts but you seem to have a good handle on all this and I didn,'t think that came across in the podcast.
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That depends if it's just the February amendments the club is claiming is anti-competitive, or the whole section of rules on APTs.

But in either case, if the club wins its claim, all that happens is that the APT rules (or some of them) are deleted and the PL has to make sure any new rules aren't anti-competitive.

So all the break-even rules will still be there, along with the new "non-mandatory" anchor rules, the threshold transaction rules and, yes, FMV rules for threshold transactions not at "arm's length". All those rules, and more, will still be there.
 
halfcenturyup said:
That depends if it's just the February amendments the club is claiming is anti-competitive, or the whole section of rules on APTs.

But in either case, if the club wins it's claim, all that happens is that the APT rules (or some of them) are deleted and the PL has to make sure any new rules aren't anti-competitive.

So all the break-even rules will still be there, along with the new "non-mandatory" anchor rules, the threshold transaction rules and, yes, FMV rules for threshold transactions not at "arm's length". All those rules, and more, will still be there.
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And City would have no problem with any of that would we?

The MSM media narrative that we are trying to establish a free for all where we could spend what we like is just nonsense (I hope I'm right on this point). After all if that was the case I think Newcastle's Saudi PIF would blow us out of the water.
 
M18CTID said:
Can someone clear something up? Are we suing the PL with this action? Or does that come later if we win the case?
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From what I've read and listened to, we're challenging the legal ruling first and then if successful we will be suing the league on this point for damages.

It's a big challenge to even be successful on the first part.
 
Coatigan said:
Nothing. But sponsors still lose out though, and that's what City are trying to prevent.

The sponsors don't exist for the sole purpose of funding clubs, that's exactly the narrative being spun here. They want to exploit business opportunities being associated with the cluns, as much as the clubs want their investment. Swapsies, stops everyone getting the benefit of the deals.
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The way it’s being spun is that these sponsors are giving us millions of pounds more than they should, out of the goodness of their hearts, which we then use to “ruin football”.

The fact is the sponsor is in it purely for themselves. That’s business.

But no, evil city taking the piss.
 
BlueAnorak said:
To be fair I have no problem with salary caps - at least its fair. Trying to reduce others income without affecting your own is the problem - it's called forming a Cartel and preventing competition.
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Would the CEO's be included in the salary cap?
Would the cleaners, ticket office, accountants, managers, physios, and every other employee in the club be on a salary cap?
Or just the people who sit front and ctr delivering the entertainment the masses pay for?
Would you accept a salary cap at work? If your salary was capped, would you be looking for a new job?
 
mcfcblue20 said:
What’s this I read that the legal costs for the premiership may inpact financial support for the lower leagues?
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lol ok I’m sure man city has paid fines to pl over the years , so where and how was it distributed?
 
Is this the first time this arbitration process has been used? or just the first time it has been leaked?
 
Gordyola said:
Gab Marcotti, who I normally have a high regard of, on his podcast this week was total out of depth when talking about the arbitration case between City and PL
In his view
It will have an affect on the 115 case
Mansour and KAM are not football fans
He sees this as an exit strategy from City
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KaM still plays, I believe. At his age you need to be a fan to keep going. I know.
 
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