England v Iceland - Fri 7th June, 19:45 | Friendly

[chris85mcfc]

How the fuck are England still favourites?

I'd have at least 3 or 4 other sides over this lot.

 

[Gorton_Tubster]

How the fuck are England still favourites?

I'd have at least 3 or 4 other sides over this lot.

Because we are one of the favourites. I think most england fans hate our own team tbf

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

For anyone who missed it, the full match is on channel 4 catch up.

Enjoy.

 

[TinFoilHat]

They're coming home...
They're coming home...

 

[blueparrot]

How the fuck are England still favourites?

I'd have at least 3 or 4 other sides over this lot.

Because we are one of the 4 or 5 teams that can win it and we're in the UK where a lot of people will have bet on us winning it, that's how the odds are calculated.

 

[warringtonblue]

Spot on

Magoo, Gallagher, Never played tournament football, same with the palace players.
You need players that have done it before and done and dont freeze-in-the-spotlights, Grealish should be one of the first names on the squad sheet, He's got that knack of winning free kicks and winding up the other players

I agree about Grealish but if players aren't selected how will they ever gain tournament experience?

 

[PPT]

Because we are one of the 4 or 5 teams that can win it and we're in the UK where a lot of people will have bet on us winning it, that's how the odds are calculated.

Lay them not to win it is the bet if they are favourites.

 

[Dave Ewing's Back 'eader]

How the fuck are England still favourites?

I'd have at least 3 or 4 other sides over this lot.

'Cos people are piling on the money!!

 

[Man-chester copperpot]

How the fuck are England still favourites?

I'd have at least 3 or 4 other sides over this lot.

I’m guessing it’s because were using betting sites in the UK.
For example SkyBet in Germany will have the Germans favourite, Skybet in France will have France as favourites? I may be wrong.

I’m with you though, no way near favourites in my eyes - you would want a lot more than 3/1 to put a bet on England to win it

 

[nmc]

Mainoo. Half a season with the Rags, the media go into a frenzy and waistcoat buys it….. he’s now an England regular. Same scenario as Cleverly.

 

[jimharri]

This thread seems remarkably free of a certain poster.

 

[The Light Was Yellow Sir]

If Waistcoat doesn’t want Jack near the team, for perceived lack of something, be that ability or professionalism, that’s entirely his prerogative. However, Jack Grealish is no different today than he was when Waistcoat picked him for the 33 man squad.
However, pick him he does. He then puts him on the pitch for 35 minutes where is then unarguably England’s most effective player of the night. He is interviewed and asked specifically about Grealish where he says, he was excellent and they know all about what a threat he poses to the opposition. Obviously his next move is to drop him (and Madison) to keep a 19 year old MU defensive midfielder and Connor Gallagher as well as a Palace defensive midfielder who’s played 19 PL games in the squad.
Still, entirely his choice (nobody is that surprised, as he’d drop Messi and Ronaldo if Kane and Henderson were in their 20’s and available)!

Where he’s massively failed is how he’s dropped Grealish (and maybe Madison) by channelling his inner Hoddle and making a big show of being Billy Big Bollocks (didn’t work out great in the end for Hoddle with Gazza)

It’s no surprise that several players have knocked on his door about it and there’ll be a few who look at him markedly differently than they did last week, which is not a great way to start a tournament, I wouldn’t imagine.

 

[TheThirdDeano]

God our national team is a pile of shit.

Is it just southgate or is there more to it?

 

[Nellies left peg]

This thread seems remarkably free of a certain poster.

Perhaps the penny has dropped and he’s come to his senses waistcoat is a liability

 

[citydad]

I support England on way home now and off to Germany next week, not a fan of pizzaman never have been but when we had Alan Ball, Frank Clark, Stuart Pearce etc I never stopped going and supporting so to hear "I can't be arsed with England they're shit" I don't understand it does that mean when we're good again in your eyes you'll jump aboard.
If you generally don't like England it's the same as me not liking the other 19 teams we play in Premier League. Each to their own I suppose.

 

[TonyColemansbagofapples]

Southgate will play someone next to rice drop a left winger and play Foden there!

If Phil scored six last night he would still be shunted to the left to allow Bellend into his chosen position.

 

[bernard o'silver]

So, who made 2 goals against Bosnia and was then sent home...
Not there tonight and...
Southgate is a fucking clown.
Pissing away the best chance we have ever had to win a trophy since 1966..

If he does becomes the rags manager, as least his two syllable name fits the song

 

[ancoats]

I agree about Grealish but if players aren't selected how will they ever gain tournament experience?

You don't pick 6 players with little or no experience in international football, You have the UEFA National League to blood players not a major tournament, Ok maybe the 6 will be squad players and gain some experience But you need somebody on the bench that can change a game (Grealish)

 

[warringtonblue]

You don't pick 6 players with little or no experience in international football, You have the UEFA National League to blood players not a major tournament, Ok maybe the 6 will be squad players and gain some experience But you need somebody on the bench that can change a game (Grealish)

As i said previously, I'm not disagreeing about Grealish but there is only 1 way players can gain experience

 

[ancoats]

As i said previously, I'm not disagreeing about Grealish but there is only 1 way players can gain experience

I get that and all other england managers have done it in the past, But you don't leave a game-changer out for somebody to just get the experience, Spain France Germany Holland would never drop a game changer from their squads