City launch legal action against the Premier League | Club & PL reach settlement | Proceedings dropped (p1147)

[bobbyowenquiff]

" What will it take for City fans to accept Abu Dhabi's charmless reign is a terrible look for their club ? "

The latest piece from Herbert in the DM no doubt supported and paid for by the redshirt/spurs / yank owner alliance.

Herbert doing his level best to shift the emphasis from the real villains of the piece, ie the mardarse clubs who are losing out to City both financially and in sporting achievements.

Hurting ?

What does he mean by Abu Dhabi's charmless reign? It doesn't make any sense given that City are owned by Sheikh Mansour (75pc) and US investors Silver Lake (25pc). Is he suggesting that all of Abu Dhabi is charmless, the entire population, every single person. Why would he say something like that? Is it because, as Alf Garnett used to say: "They are all the same aren't they"?

 

[cheekybids]

Found this interesting from ‘The Sponsor’ dated June 24. Shows what they believe to be fair market value.

According to the article we are overvalued on the main Etihad deal by £2.7m pa.

Not a train smash you might think but what’s the betting we went in asking for more for this deal and were knocked back.

Another interesting facet is that the article suggests Utd are massively undervalued and the usual red top suspects deserve the best deals coz of their istory etc.

Revealed: Premier League Fair Market Sponsorship Values 2024 - The Sponsor

This article contains the fair market valuations of all 20 Premier League clubs. How does your club compare?

www.thesponsor.com

If the Dippers & Rags could get that then they’d have got it. What a pile of shit.

Samuel has a better idea of why a company would sponsor & what it’s value is to them.

 

[bobbyowenquiff]

I’ve posted this before but …

He’s not everyone’s cup of tea I know but I knew John Benson well and he was really sound. The City job was too much for him.
He once told me he went for an interview with Palace and was invited to meet the peroxide chap on a brash floating gin palace.
Arriving on time he was kept waiting for nearly two hours whilst he listened to peroxide man yapping loud gossipy crap on his phone in another part of the boat.
John stood up to leave and peroxide’s assistant said ‘ he won’t be long and should be free in a minute.”

John replied as he walked out “tell him I’ve got better things to do, he’s got my number if he wants to come and meet me somewhere of my choosing.”

Hope any JB haters find a way to like him a tad more for this.

Well done John Benson. I walked out before an interview once after they kept me waiting for almost an hour without even an offer of a cup of tea. I just decided I didn't want to work for such an organisation and fortunately I had the choice because I was already in a job somewhere else.

 

[Son of Merv]

Not sure that’s comparing like for like, that reads like they’re taking the entire of the Etihad deal and applying it only to front of shirt sponsorship.

Etihad deal is reportedly closer to £80m, so this is, supposedly, just the shirt bit. Stadium naming is about £15m.

 

[halfcenturyup]

Not sure that’s comparing like for like, that reads like they’re taking the entire of the Etihad deal and applying it only to front of shirt sponsorship.

I think the most recent analysis is that the total Etihad sponsorship is 80 million, being 15 naming rights and 65 shirt front. Not sure how accurate that is, but you can imagine it going up with everything the club has won in the last couple of years.

There is a lot of soul-searching around sponsorship but the club's commercial to broadcast revenue ratio isn't out of line with other major clubs.

 

[waspish]

Etihad deal is reportedly closer to £80m, so this is, supposedly, just the shirt bit. Stadium naming is about £15m.

The Etihad sponsor isn't associated so it also proves that none associated is still get looked at for fair value! You read or see in the media that we win the case we could have a sponsor that could give us 500m a season!

 

[Impeccable One]

Did I read somewhere that PL APT rules also apply to transfers ? such that City couldn’t buy on the cheap from another CFG team and also couldn’t sell on an inflated value to another CFG team, with the onus being on City to prove the values are appropriate ? and if the PL decided the values were not correct they could adjust what City are allowed to spend ?

 

[mancboy]

If the Dippers & Rags could get that then they’d have got it. What a pile of shit.

Samuel has a better idea of why a company would sponsor & what it’s value is to them.

This and only this is what the system cannot work, value is entirely subjective, what is of value to you may not be of value to me and vice versa and no singular person or independent entity has the right, experience or skillset to decide what is value or not.

 

[Blu1]

So now villa are considering legal action against prem league & its okay because they are only considering it where as city are doing it! Fook me I’m in the twighlight zone

 

[halfcenturyup]

The thing that gets me about these APT rules (along with the definition and the club's requirement to prove FMV, which are both on shaky ground, I would imagine) is that the PL don't just want to adjust the income if they think it is overstated (which is already fraught with difficulty), they want the club and the sponsor to alter the terms of the sponsorship contract or cancel it(!).

I can't imagine it's legal for a regulatory body to tell two independent companies which commercial contracts they can enter into, and on what terms. I find it hard to believe any tribunal will allow a third party to do that?

I may be wrong, of course, but surely not?

 

[Gazza]

Well done John Benson. I walked out before an interview once after they kept me waiting for almost an hour without even an offer of a cup of tea. I just decided I didn't want to work for such an organisation and fortunately I had the choice because I was already in a job somewhere else.

What a lot of people don't realise is that it's a two way process, you're interviewing them just as much.

 

[hihosilva]

So according to the Mail, Aston Villa are now going to sue the Premier League.

 

[Blu1]

So according to the Mail, Aston Villa are now going to sue the Premier League.

Yep but it’s okay the way villa are going about it as far as talk sport are concerned! lol mental the narrative being played out

 

[Son of Merv]

The Etihad sponsor isn't associated so it also proves that none associated is still get looked at for fair value! You read or see in the media that we win the case we could have a sponsor that could give us 500m a season!

It hasn't previously been regarded as 'related', but isn't the concern from City that it now potentially becomes 'associated', under the amendment...?

 

[invisibleandalone]

Day three of my pursuit to fight back on Facebook. Two main things.
Dipper boy has not come back since I outed him on “all the serious charges were time barred.”
But this one is potentially my all time favourite.

“City’s chairman already owns one country and now he’s trying to take over the UK”

In fairness I did used to spray paint on walls during 60's and 70's "CITY RULE OK"

 

[Colin Bells Boots]

What does he mean by Abu Dhabi's charmless reign? It doesn't make any sense given that City are owned by Sheikh Mansour (75pc) and US investors Silver Lake (25pc). Is he suggesting that all of Abu Dhabi is charmless, the entire population, every single person. Why would he say something like that? Is it because, as Alf Garnett used to say: "They are all the same aren't they"?

He is clearly is using this approach knowing that it will frustrate/ anger City supporters whilst expressly appealing to the braindeads in the redshirt ranks.

Charmless - maybe in his opinion, but far more annoying is the fact that City are enjoying an excellent period of success on the pitch and in their earnings - the two things which our bitter rivals crave the most.

Herbert is just another jounalist whore in amongst the many less talented, who is being used in the collective attack upon the club, so fuck him, safe in the knowledge that he is hurting .

 

[abu13]

Did I read somewhere that PL APT rules also apply to transfers ? such that City couldn’t buy on the cheap from another CFG team and also couldn’t sell on an inflated value to another CFG team, with the onus being on City to prove the values are appropriate ? and if the PL decided the values were not correct they could adjust what City are allowed to spend ?

This is what makes me laugh with these rules, lets say Girona were in the shit in Spain with FFP and needed to raise 35 million, assume we want to buy a player that they value at 50 million but our own PSR rules stop us from doing so. Why could a 35 million deal be agreed as it suits both parties. They would sooner see Girona fail FFP than allow the deal to go through.

 

[Colin Bells Boots]

What does he mean by Abu Dhabi's charmless reign? It doesn't make any sense given that City are owned by Sheikh Mansour (75pc) and US investors Silver Lake (25pc). Is he suggesting that all of Abu Dhabi is charmless, the entire population, every single person. Why would he say something like that? Is it because, as Alf Garnett used to say: "They are all the same aren't they"?

oh ffs @bobbowenquiff - why would they want to rely upon facts before they publish their bitter attacks ? The truth doesn't pay their bills.

 

[Platt Lane 59]

So according to the Mail, Aston Villa are now going to sue the Premier League.

This will construed as City opening the floodgates of legal cases against the Premier League ? Villa will just be seen as "copycats".
The Premier League will no doubt play the poor victim against the evil MCFC empire.
Think City's case against the PL has already been portrayed as the reason they cannot now afford to give financial aid to the EFL clubs ?
The media agenda against City just seems to be continuously moving.
Think we now need to start sueing media outlets as it is becoming a non-stop barrage of claims against the club's financial dealings...

 

[Prestwich_Blue]

What's stupid about the PSR rules is that Villa, via their participation in the CL, will earn significantly more revenue, probably over 25% more than the £218m they reported in 2022/23. Yet they're not allowed to spend that money because of their cumulative losses for the previous 3 years.

It's like winning the lottery or getting a decent inheritance, then being told you can't spend it because you had an overdraft 2 years ago.