Believe was the 53 tram later buses with the same route numberIt was created in the 1890s with the opening of the ship canal & had 12k people working there before the swamp was built peaking at 75k in the 1940s.
I believe they had trams operating.
Believe was the 53 tram later buses with the same route numberIt was created in the 1890s with the opening of the ship canal & had 12k people working there before the swamp was built peaking at 75k in the 1940s.
I believe they had trams operating.
Strange how we never hear them mention 1902, which is their equivalent to our 1894, which is very well publicised by our club with merchandise etc, and an active supporters group.I've always said this 'manchester united' didn't exist until 1902 . Newton heath were a different club, just like Ardwick/West Gorton, admittedly there are links but a different Club nonetheless. Despite all the bullshit , they aren't older than MANCHESTER CITY FC.
ExactlyStrange how we never hear them mention 1902, which is their equivalent to our 1894, which is very well publicised by our club with merchandise etc, and an active supporters group.
It's almost like they're embarrassed they're actually a club formed in the 20th century.
No. We didn’t.Maybe Manchester didn’t want them.
They also received handouts from the taxpayer twice to pay for renovations to their shit hole.And tell him they had not just one, but two sugar-daddies pretty well continuously from 1901 to 1951. Davies saved them from bankruptcy in 1901 and funded them all the way to 1927, when he died.
They were in severe financial difficulty after that and on the verge of bankruptcy again in 1931, when James Gibson bailed them out and continued to fund them, paying for the rebuilding of the swamp after the war. When he died in 1951 they managed to survive on their own for the first time in 50 years.
When they say we'd be in League 1 if not for Sheikh Mansour, tell him they would have ceased to exist completely if not for their two sugar daddies.
Wasn't Trafford then (formed 1974)I wonder what the logic was for relocating to the borough of Trafford at that time. Presumably there were plenty of plots available in and around Manchester. Was it expanding at the time? Were the transport links better? Maybe the land was especially cheap.
We're talking about Warwick Davies here right?Davies also gave them a free stadium. The club didn't pay a penny towards its construction. Rags don't like to hear that and their Pavlovian response is angry denial.
From the rags' own website:
"Davies himself paid for the building work, which commenced in 1908 under the supervision of architect Archibald Leitch. By 1910, the club had moved lock, stock and barrel from their old home of Bank Street. United's opening fixture at Old Trafford was played on 19 February 1910."
Trams tooThat was the reason according to "Worzel Gummidge" Ratcliffe. He reckons it was built to be in walking distance of Trafford Park because there was no public transport in 1910. Pretty sure there were plenty of trains and buses at the time. Maybe he is getting confused with Monaco.
Nice, new nickname for the RagsStrange how we never hear them mention 1902, which is their equivalent to our 1894, which is very well publicised by our club with merchandise etc, and an active supporters group.
It's almost like they're embarrassed they're actually a club formed in the 20th century.
I worked at gec in trafford park and can confirm this. As they had a photo on a wall of when the tram converted to electric in 1903. can't even remember my kids names some days but had this fact in the back of my mind for 30 odd years waiting for this moment my life is now complete.It was created in the 1890s with the opening of the ship canal & had 12k people working there before the swamp was built peaking at 75k in the 1940s.
I believe they had trams operating.
Good point! I’d forgotten that Trafford was a creature of the Local Government Act 1972!Wasn't Trafford then (formed 1974)
Was the area considered parg of Lan Manchester or Cheshire at that time?
No. Old Trafford has always been in the market town of Stretford. Which isn’t in Manchester and it’s not in Salford. It’s a separate entity. It’s a municipal borough now in Trafford.Wasn't Trafford then (formed 1974)
Was the area considered part of Lancashire, Manchester or Cheshire at that time?
I'll end up following Warrington Town, only round the corner.They will be fine when Friedkin takes over, another one to add to the Yankee cartel. The league is being taken over by the USA.
Half our matches will end up getting played in the States or the teams will be franchised out to cities over there.
Before 1903, they were gas trams.I worked at gec in trafford park and can confirm this. As they had a photo on a wall of when the tram converted to electric in 1903. can't even remember my kids names some days but had this fact in the back of my mind for 30 odd years waiting for this moment my life is now complete.
Edited slightly, hope you don't mind :-)Can we move the last few pages covering utd history to the fukkin bin
Clarkie?Before 1903, they were gas trams.
And no, I have no idea how they were connected to the mains.
we decided to stop discussing the legal case and make an actual legal case which meant we had to talk complete bollocks and start quoting nonsensical historical stuff.Where's the thread that used to be here?
Clarkie?