Media Discussion - 2023/24

[Norbiton]

I didn’t think Phil was that bad at all, doing a lot of fetching and carrying, playing the simple ball, keeping possession. When you have a right back playing at left back behind you, a striker who doesn’t touch the ball for the whole first half ( yes, OK, he’s not unused to that) and another not very good right back playing in some kind of midfield position where even he doesn’t have a clue what he’s meant to be doing, you’re not going to get a lot of space to work in, and when you do find a pocket of space nobody is quick witted enough to get the ball to you, especially Saint Jude who will always prefer to perform a miracle on his own.

And did Shearer really not hear himself saying how unimportant it was that Kane wasn’t involved at all when week after week Haaland is berated on MOTD for only getting five times as many touches as Kane managed? And his one chance was a brilliant save rather than “he has to score from there”. Perhaps I’m just being over sensitive

 

[spacecadet]

The media should be asking themselves, how does Trent this, Trent that get anywhere near an international level midfield? He isn't good enough to play right back at that level either. My main school of thought behind it is that since Littlewoods was formed, there has to be a LFcult operative playing for England. The list or useless twats is never ending. Tront, Henderson, Matip, Thompson, Barnes (yes less than 60 mins of a good game in 80 odd caps) Neal, Smith, Johnson, Lee, Jones, Gomez, Solanke, Clyne, Shelvey, Lambert, Ruddock, Kirkland and Andy fucking Carroll. Quite incredible really.

 

[eastmanc]

I see it's not only the English press that utterly stupid. One French paper gave John Stones 3 out of 10 for last nights performance.

 

[Dave Ewing's Back 'eader]

I didn’t think Phil was that bad at all, doing a lot of fetching and carrying, playing the simple ball, keeping possession. When you have a right back playing at left back behind you, a striker who doesn’t touch the ball for the whole first half ( yes, OK, he’s not unused to that) and another not very good right back playing in some kind of midfield position where even he doesn’t have a clue what he’s meant to be doing, you’re not going to get a lot of space to work in, and when you do find a pocket of space nobody is quick witted enough to get the ball to you, especially Saint Jude who will always prefer to perform a miracle on his own.

And did Shearer really not hear himself saying how unimportant it was that Kane wasn’t involved at all when week after week Haaland is berated on MOTD for only getting five times as many touches as Kane managed? And his one chance was a brilliant save rather than “he has to score from there”. Perhaps I’m just being over sensitive

Not sensitivity, N, but sensibility. The RDAHMeedya have different narratives for the likes of Kane and Haaland, and the shirt colour often provides the reason. Watch the England women and every touch from the likes of Toone is lauded to the roof of the stand. The second she balloons one into the stand there's not a word of criticism. Same with Russo. When Keira played for us every misplaced pass was a cause for verbal vilification.

 

[JASR]

I didn’t think Phil was that bad at all, doing a lot of fetching and carrying, playing the simple ball, keeping possession. When you have a right back playing at left back behind you, a striker who doesn’t touch the ball for the whole first half ( yes, OK, he’s not unused to that) and another not very good right back playing in some kind of midfield position where even he doesn’t have a clue what he’s meant to be doing, you’re not going to get a lot of space to work in, and when you do find a pocket of space nobody is quick witted enough to get the ball to you, especially Saint Jude who will always prefer to perform a miracle on his own.

And did Shearer really not hear himself saying how unimportant it was that Kane wasn’t involved at all when week after week Haaland is berated on MOTD for only getting five times as many touches as Kane managed? And his one chance was a brilliant save rather than “he has to score from there”. Perhaps I’m just being over sensitive

Yeah that comment from shearer was a wtf one.
It was a decent 1st half performance by most of the team, and then the 2nd half was like watching united, hit and hoof … presumably the ideal tactics for mainoo to come on and watch the ball fly over his head.

Stones was still rusty I thought , but ok.
Walker fine.
Foden just not got enough intelligently coached footballers around him to showcase his talents, and was chopped down constantly.

I think I got my pre-match assessment of taa spot on. Ie why bother.
Saka with Walker (iirc) supplying the perfect pass to allow the cross for the goal was better than I expected.
That perfect pass was entirely unmentioned in the live commentary, and yet it was the best part of the goal move.

 

[eastmanc]

I didn’t think Phil was that bad at all, doing a lot of fetching and carrying, playing the simple ball, keeping possession. When you have a right back playing at left back behind you, a striker who doesn’t touch the ball for the whole first half ( yes, OK, he’s not unused to that) and another not very good right back playing in some kind of midfield position where even he doesn’t have a clue what he’s meant to be doing, you’re not going to get a lot of space to work in, and when you do find a pocket of space nobody is quick witted enough to get the ball to you, especially Saint Jude who will always prefer to perform a miracle on his own.

And did Shearer really not hear himself saying how unimportant it was that Kane wasn’t involved at all when week after week Haaland is berated on MOTD for only getting five times as many touches as Kane managed? And his one chance was a brilliant save rather than “he has to score from there”. Perhaps I’m just being over sensitive

No wonder Shearer never made it as a manager. He is a dinosaur and has the most weird views about the game.

 

[Saddleworth2]

It's really shit. After fawning over Phil's performance over the season, they turn against him the first opportunity they get. They must have the football knowledge to see that he is surrounded by players that for whatever reason are not passing to him. He is demanding the ball, in space, and it gets to him maybe 10% of the times it should. Nobody can play well in those circumstances.

 

[JRockBlues]

Shunt Saka onto the left and see how he gets on with a right footed left back coming inside and not creating any space for him. During the hatchet job in Foden by the BBC last night Ferdinand had to get in how great Paul Scholes was at adapting. Then Mica Richards shut him down highlighting that he never did it for England.

I had a feeling Southgate would try playing three right backs in the same team but surely he wouldn’t be daft enough to try it. Bloody hell I was wrong. They can’t keep that system going next game, Foden will be the casualty of it all and will probably end up on the bench.

3 right backs, 3 centre backs and 1 left back in the starting eleven. A #8 playing as a #10, a #10 playing as a #11 & a #9 who thinks he's a #10. Add in a keeper whose mental acuity and lack of calmness when the ball is anywhere near his vicinity make Grobelaar look like a sane alternative then what could possibly go wrong.

 

[Bozzie]

I see it's not only the English press that utterly stupid. One French paper gave John Stones 3 out of 10 for last nights performance.

I’m guessing that’s L’Quipe. They have a deliberate policy of creating headlines with scathing performance ratings that are rarely a reflection of the actual game.
In respect of Foden, it’s probably time he got on the phone with Paul Scholes and asked his advice on how you deal with being played out of position for your country by a manager who is not fit to lace the boots of your club manager. Hopefully Scholes would just say “tell them to do one”!

 

[AirbagsOptionalTheReturn]

Must have watched a different game to the one in which "Jude" was World Class.
I did see one in which someone was World class in seeking out camera opportunities though.

I don't support England due to this type of hyperbole and b*llocks. I had to turn the game off due to the commentary and w*nkfest for Arnold and Bellingham everytime they did anything. I have watched most games and that was the only one that I have turned off.

 

[mimicmickmickdoyle]

I don't support England due to this type of hyperbole and b*llocks. I had to turn the game off due to the commentary and w*nkfest for Arnold and Bellingham everytime they did anything. I have watched most games and that was the only one that I have turned off.

Also no mention of the through ball from Kyle Walker to Saka, just what a great cross it was to Saint Jude who made a fantastic run and planted a superb header past the keeper. Not even mentioned in the half time anaylsis.

 

[train man]

Saka with Walker (iirc) supplying the perfect pass to allow the cross for the goal was better than I expected.
That perfect pass was entirely unmentioned in the live commentary, and yet it was the best part of the goal move.

Unmentioned in commentary and even in the HT/FT critiquing of Kyle's overall performance(!!) - the weight of that inside pass for Saka to provide the (deflected) cross was spot on. I think he put a couple of great balls down that channel, the airbrush in full swing...

 

[mancity2012_eamo]

I watched the game out, with my son. It was on RTE but the sound was down.
There were a few Germans and an American and other various nationalities in the pub.

One thing I think the English team suffers from, for obvious reasons that are stated in here, is that the tribalism of the PL is brought into your eleven on the pitch, if not the whole squad.
It was always so, not just with Southgate.

Other national teams get full backing from the nation, but perhaps understandably it can be difficult for a City fan to get behind what they see as favouritism and downright incompetence.

Put it this way. Imagine what Pep would achieve with your squad.

 

[robbieh]

Also no mention of the through ball from Kyle Walker to Saka, just what a great cross it was to Saint Jude who made a fantastic run and planted a superb header past the keeper. Not even mentioned in the half time anaylsis.

Actually the only reason it ended up head high was it took a deflection off the Serbian defender.

 

[Big Joe Corrigan]

I watched the game out, with my son. It was on RTE but the sound was down.
There were a few Germans and an American and other various nationalities in the pub.

One thing I think the English team suffers from, for obvious reasons that are stated in here, is that the tribalism of the PL is brought into your eleven on the pitch, if not the whole squad.
It was always so, not just with Southgate.

Other national teams get full backing from the nation, but perhaps understandably it can be difficult for a City fan to get behind what they see as favouritism and downright incompetence.

Put it this way. Imagine what Pep would achieve with your squad.

You are correct with the tribalism, if Arnold scored a hat-trick I’d never give him credit, it’s City for me first and foremost.

 

[Platt Lane 59]

BBC running with Foden fails to shine yet in the same article “was Arnold a success”.

Arnold was a huge disaster as we all knew he would be but its glossed over, Bellingham did not turn up in the 2nd half, again not mentioned, and instead of putting Phil in midfield he brings on Gallagher.
Phil did not play too well but its hard when your not being passed to and you have a right footed limited left back behind you. Saka had an excellent Walker behind him creating space for them both, again this point being ignored or the useless media can not see it.

In fairness to Gallagher, he disrupted Serbia and got stuck in amongst them.
Phil plays further forward and cannot play alongside Rice, like Gallagher did.
Thought Bowen also did well when he came on...

 

[PPT]

All fodens fault I’m hearing and reading this morning. The tactical genius that is Stuart Pearce would have taken him off after half an hour apparently! Probably wanted to replace him Ramsdale!

Pearce really is as thick as pig shit. What is it with him and City? We must have seriously pissed him off over something. He appears to loathe us.

 

[chaddblue]

Pearce really is as thick as pig shit. What is it with him and City? We must have seriously pissed him off over something. He appears to loathe us.

We sacked him and for nearly 20 years we've ridiculed him... might be something to do with that

Quite legitimately by the way

 

[Bald fraud]

Must have watched a different game to the one in which "Jude" was World Class.
I did see one in which someone was World class in seeking out camera opportunities though.

I noticed that he spends most of the game trying to see himself on the big screen!

 

[uwe rosler 28]

How do they expect foden to influence playing as a 2nd left back everything is on the manager. Playing foden where he did to accommodate a right back in midfield whos main weapon is ling balls over the top only to play with a cf that comes short and can't run in behind. A total inability to change a game of football has already cost us our chance at 2 major tournaments ( Croatia and Italy games) just crosses his fingers and hopes for the best. Crying out for Watkins 2nd half to get us up and in behind their back line. Instead he takes TAA off for the younger Jordan Henderson drops the backline even deeper and plays foden saka Bellingham as defensive midfielders and kane as a false 9 at best!! Get us out ASAP and get rid of the clown and let the players have their summer break. We ain't winning shit under that clown!!!