Denmark v England - Thu 20th June, 17:00 | Euro 2024 Group C

Match Result Prediction?

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prestonibbo_mcfc said:
You can see the players aren't enjoying it. They should be buzzing and floating past players , like they do for their clubs. Criminal lack of energy and too much fear.
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Because they are all being asked to be water carriers for Bellingham.

You can see it throughout both matches.

There is absolutely no fluidity or cohesion because everyone’s job is to enable Bellingham to go where he wants and do whatever he wants. The desperation is palpable when any other player gets the ball in or near the box—it is this fleeting chance to actually play. Tonight you could even see visible hints of frustration from many when Bellingham did his customary series of attempts to carry the ball to Denmark’s goal on his own, ignoring teammates in acres of space.

If I was Phil, and didn’t care about the consequences, I would stand up in the dressing room, look straight at Southgate, and ask “are we meant to be playing matches in the Euros or testimonials for Jude?”

Because as much as Bellingham is getting on my tits with his massive ego and selfish play, this ultimately comes down to the manager not being strong enough (or clever enough) to make sure he knows his place.

Instead, we have one that has seemingly setup a side to enable it.
 
Cheadle_hulmeBlue said:
The obvious answer is to put Bellingham in the 8 role, foden as a 10 and Gordon on the left.
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Looking at St. Jude's performances over the 2 games I don't think you could do that with this England team. Seems to have bought into the hype and just seems to stand around doing nothing much of note. Kane would be okay dropping deep if the player in the #10 role would run on beyond. Bellingham didn't do that once this game. Nor is he effective in the press (see standing around comment) not that England as a team seemed to have much cohesion in which to do so anyway. How he remained on the pitch for 90mins is would be one of life's great mysteries except one look at the head coach and it speaks volumes.
 
I predicted a draw before the game and I think a draw on Tuesday is more than likely too. This squad looks devoid of confidence and quality on the ball. Some of them should have a good look at themselves and leave their egos in the dressing room
 
Reading online it's very mixed opinions though all of them seem to think Foden was poor again.
Some think Twunt was poor and some think he was the biggest attacking threat (ffs)
Some calling out the (joke of a) manager while others are blaming the players.
Saint Jude seems exempt.
Fucking madness this fucking clown has managed England for 8 years and they're still absolutely dogshit.
I give up lol
 
Ptolemy's Hairdo said:
Well I only watched the last 30 minutes.

Feels like I'm going mad, because I've watched countless tournaments down the years, and the teams that come good later are rarely the ones sprinting through relatively tough group games. In fact winning big early on is usually a warning sign, the team won't cope when things go against them. In some ways, I think these are the best games to come through in tact.
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a) We have been shit against almost any decent team for Southgate's entire run, this isn't new.

b) There is zero indication that we will 'come good later'. We can barely score a goal.

c) The team isn't coping now - I dread to think how bad we'll be when things go against us

d) We shouldn't be 'coming through' games against Denmark. We should be winning them.
 
Tbh I think Rice is the problem, he’s far too deep and that dictates our defence, it then becomes let’s pass it around our defence because there isn’t an out ball and then we lose it by kicking it long.
 
Him lamenting about not having a Kalvin replacement shows how out of depth he is, clueless, gutless and bereft of ideas.

Sack him as soon as we're out or he's going to put us back years.
 
WesthoughtonJohn said:
Genuinely believe that was the game plan towards the end - knock it long for Watkins and pray.
It was sadly grim watching injury time and Pickford trying to work out if it should REALLY be him taking free kicks from the half way line - lacking ANY sort of plan other than get a lead and live on our 18yd line
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It was. Sam Allardyce used similar tactics most effectively as Blackburn Rovers manager 15 years ago. Every free kick around the half way line was taken by the keeper and lofted into the penalty area. It was effective because it was clear that the keeper was taking the free kicks and the team was obviously well coached in the tactic.

But in 2024, the game has moved on. With better players, many well coached by Pep and Arteta, it's obviously unacceptable.
 
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