General Election - 4th July 2024

[I'm With Stupid]

I'm reading a list of a lot of things that don't appear to have happened, and a lot of things that put a sensationalised spin on anything remotely right wing that New Labour did.

I suspect we can both agree that New Labour had an authoritarian streak, that is a long way from my own views, but is that really what you take away from the list of achievements posted?

The Labour government could have absolutely no achievements between 1997 and 2010, and it'd still put them ahead of 'starved our poorest children,' 'left over 10% of the population waiting for NHS treatment' and 'filled our rivers with shit'.

 

[liveandletdive]

A bigger bunch of twats than the Tory twats that have been running the country into the ground for the past fourteen years? Get real Rishi.

Well, if you seriously think labour are going to do a better job than the Tories you need your head examined, yes the Tories have been as you say it twats, but you ain't seen nothing yet, when labour get in.
How anyone with kids or grandkids can vote for that pile of turd is completely beyond me.

 

[Ifwecouldjust.......]

Well, if you seriously think labour are going to do a better job than the Tories you need your head examined, yes the Tories have been as you say it twats, but you ain't seen nothing yet, when labour get in.
How anyone with kids or grandkids can vote for that pile of turd is completely beyond me.

I know one thing .... my kids and grandkids are safer because of the Good Friday Agreement. An agreement held together by the ECHR..... The very convention that the ''current pile of turds in power'' are trying to dismantle so that they can turn back a few people in small boats .

 

[west didsblue]

Great few years? Pmsl.

Pmsl at you taking an obviously deliberately hyperbolic post literally.

 

[mosssideblue]

Well, if you seriously think labour are going to do a better job than the Tories you need your head examined, yes the Tories have been as you say it twats, but you ain't seen nothing yet, when labour get in.
How anyone with kids or grandkids can vote for that pile of turd is completely beyond me.

Yes, I fully anticipate the country to be in better shape under labour. The Tories have been nothing short of disgraceful

 

[threespires]

Well, if you seriously think labour are going to do a better job than the Tories you need your head examined, yes the Tories have been as you say it twats, but you ain't seen nothing yet, when labour get in.
How anyone with kids or grandkids can vote for that pile of turd is completely beyond me.

What exactly is it that you think will happen that will be worse than what we've had from the last few Conservative administrations?

 

[Worsleyweb]

All we're getting now is Tories saying they "fear" Labour when what they fear is that Labour will be making things get better and the Tory party will die with its last supporters.

Not true at all - if labour improve the country fantastic. Very blinkered view. The fear is that the 11 million economically inactive will grow further under labour. This is our fundamental problem but can’t be discussed.

 

[Ifwecouldjust.......]

Not true at all - if labour improve the country fantastic. Very blinkered view. The fear is that the 11 million economically inactive will grow further under labour. This is our fundamental problem but can’t be discussed.

'Othering' again ..lets blame the 'Economically inactive' for this countries problems without understanding that of the 11 million ... 6,3 million are registered disabled (all have been assessed by GPs and DWP Work Capability assessments) A large majority of the remaining (4.9 million are carers) cant work full time because they have to look after somebody either disabled or elderly.

https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/cbp-7756/

 

[Vic]

Not true at all - if labour improve the country fantastic. Very blinkered view. The fear is that the 11 million economically inactive will grow further under labour. This is our fundamental problem but can’t be discussed.

Why is it a problem?

Who are the "economically inactive"? It includes the rich who can afford not to work, including those made redundant but with a decent pension.

I think you think getting a few thousand "discouraged workers" back in work will mean we need fewer immigrants.

 

[jim tolmies perm]

Only two more days of these cunts...

 

[mosssideblue]

Not true at all - if labour improve the country fantastic. Very blinkered view. The fear is that the 11 million economically inactive will grow further under labour. This is our fundamental problem but can’t be discussed.

Disagree with you. Labour, through improvement will expose further how much the Tories were out of their depth, and how much they destroyed the country whilst lining their own and donors pockets.

 

[rickmcfc]

Does anyone know what Labour’s stance is to the free childcare that’s due to come into force very soon under the conservative government?

I can find anything outlined in their manifesto

 

[Kippaxpete]

Apologies if someone has already posted the following. Pie, articulating so much better than me, the way I feel about the cockroaches currently in power.

 

[Blue Maverick]

Does anyone know what Labour’s stance is to the free childcare that’s due to come into force very soon under the conservative government?

I can find anything outlined in their manifesto

They’ve not committed to anything on that, I saw an interview last week, like most things when pushed they ain’t saying anything. I suppose they’ve got to see what’s in the pot first.

 

[Johnny Mars Bar]

Well, if you seriously think labour are going to do a better job than the Tories you need your head examined, yes the Tories have been as you say it twats, but you ain't seen nothing yet, when labour get in.
How anyone with kids or grandkids can vote for that pile of turd is completely beyond me.

Yeah Labour aren’t planning on tackling the important issues for young people like…let me have a look…making them do national service.

If they cared about young people they wouldn’t have taken their freedoms to study and work abroad away though a half cocked pointless brexit.

 

[Vic]

Does anyone know what Labour’s stance is to the free childcare that’s due to come into force very soon under the conservative government?

I can find anything outlined in their manifesto

Labour commits to full Tory childcare expansion plan

From this week, working parents with two-year-olds will be eligible for 15 hours of free childcare.

www.bbc.co.uk

Hesitation over whether it's realistic to promise places that may not be available next year (and Labour gets blamed for not fulfilling an unrealistic Tory policy).

But expanding childcare (vague) is in the manifesto and so is 3000 new primary school based nurseries (and free breakfast clubs in every primary school).

 

[Chris in London]

Well, if you seriously think labour are going to do a better job than the Tories you need your head examined, yes the Tories have been as you say it twats, but you ain't seen nothing yet, when labour get in.
How anyone with kids or grandkids can vote for that pile of turd is completely beyond me.

Project fear again!

How you could live with yourself after voting for Brexit is beyond me.

 

[mosssideblue]

Well, if you seriously think labour are going to do a better job than the Tories you need your head examined, yes the Tories have been as you say it twats, but you ain't seen nothing yet, when labour get in.
How anyone with kids or grandkids can vote for that pile of turd is completely beyond me.

Please elaborate on exactly what Labour are going to do that makes you say “ you ain’t seen nothing yet “ and what your source is, other than gut feel

 

[Vic]

Please elaborate on exactly what Labour are going to do that makes you say “ you ain’t seen nothing yet “ and what your source is, other than gut feel

Don't encourage them.

It's just their device for not facing up to the damage their beloved Tories have done. Every accusation (sorry, "fear") about what Labour might do is an admission about what the Tories have done.

 

[inchy14]

'Othering' again ..lets blame the 'Economically inactive' for this countries problems without understanding that of the 11 million ... 6,3 million are registered disabled (all have been assessed by GPs and DWP Work Capability assessments) A large majority of the remaining (4.9 million are carers) cant work full time because they have to look after somebody either disabled or elderly.

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https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/cbp-7756/

Don’t let the facts get in his way mate.