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What I said was that in the end both parties are gonna have to sit around the table and talk because Ukraine will never in a month of Sundays be able to kick Russia out of Ukraine even though it’s wrong and tragic but it’s a he truth . Hundreds of thousands have died and many more will die . It’s big right what’s happened to he Ukraine people but I think that’s the end game .
Talk about what? Russia won’t abide by anything it agrees to. How can you negotiate with a party that simply won’t keep its word?

Or do you actually think they will?
 
America is fucked, basically. With the widespread proliferation of weapons, social media fuelled divisions and conspiracy theories, along with utterly polarised world views, can anyone on here honestly see the situation doing anything other than getting progressively worse, and more violent, whoever wins in November- and if so, how?
I’m vehemently hate politics and I despise how horrible the entire discussion has become when discussing anything and I have never ventured into this sub forum before.
But America is such a car crash it’s impossible to look away.

And now, left or right attempting the ‘assassination’ is actually quite irrelevant the thing to consider is what is the next step of escalation? Because as you said it’s only getting worse. And then of course the issue is. How do you stop it?

Let’s hope this train has brakes!
 
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Talk about what? Russia won’t abide by anything it agrees to. How can you negotiate with a party that simply won’t keep its word?

Or do you actually think they will?
I think it’s always been about the donbass but maybe I’m wrong but sooner or later they are gonna have to talk because the war is not sustainable for the world .
 
America is fucked, basically. With the widespread proliferation of weapons, social media fuelled divisions and conspiracy theories, along with utterly polarised world views, can anyone on here honestly see the situation doing anything other than getting progressively worse, and more violent, whoever wins in November- and if so, how?
Strange, strange country. My partner is from the US and can't really bear to see any news coming from the debates.

One hand you've got a narcissistic nutjob who is doing everything in his power to make life demonstrably worse for women and ensure that immigrants feel more unwelcome than they ever have in the US(despite the country being built upon immigration).
On the other hand you've got a delerious old man, who doesn't know where he is, backed by the most pathetic political institution which actively benefits from the republicans being so awful people are forced to vote against instead of for. They don't want to do anything to make the country better for anyone who doesn't invest in them.

Completely fucked and I can only see this getting far, far worse.
 
America is fucked, basically. With the widespread proliferation of weapons, social media fuelled divisions and conspiracy theories, along with utterly polarised world views, can anyone on here honestly see the situation doing anything other than getting progressively worse, and more violent, whoever wins in November- and if so, how?

All good points. Completely agree. Difficult for anyone to form a coherent and intellectually honest argument against your points.

The most heavily armed state for conventional warfare and nuclear warfare, and civilian owned weapons descending towards civil war can only be a bad thing.
 
what point are you trying to make? Because he’s said those words that justifies an assassination attempt?

You might not like his words or opinions but violence on either side isn’t justified because of words.
Just highlighting the character of the man to his fans on here . His words and actions have left a trail of death and destruction .
 
Just highlighting the character of the man to his fans on here . His words and actions have left a trail of death and destruction .
Fair enough. I could argue that Joe Biden has played a big part in facilitating in the destruction of Gaza and the death of the thousands of people. I don’t think he should be shot for it though.

The obvious answer if you don’t like someone is to vote them out or just disagree without using violence
 
I’m sure there’s a few nutcase conservatives who think similar about starmer or democrats who think the same about Biden.

I think Tony Blair is a war criminal, but I don’t think he should be assassinated.

‘No point in reading the rest’ I’m not really surprised by that. If it’s something that doesn’t match your opinion you don’t tend to want a discussion from what I’ve seen.

No it's not about opinions. Trump is menace by any objective measure. When Starmer or whichever politician you use an example starts inciting mobs to murder his deputy and half of the parliament you have a valid comparison. Otherwise you don't. It's as simple as that.
 
When you say left who exactly are you talking about?

There’s now a large percentage of people who are completely intolerant of other people having a different view. It then ends up with nutcases trying to assassinate a democratically elected former president.

I don’t often like what the conservatives say, but I’m not about to try and be violent towards them. People are allowed different opinions and to have different politic leanings, even if I don’t agree with it.
Spot on.
 
Fair enough. I could argue that Joe Biden has played a big part in facilitating in the destruction of Gaza and the death of the thousands of people. I don’t think he should be shot for it though.

The obvious answer if you don’t like someone is to vote them out or just disagree without using violence
100 percent agree as not once has he called for the war to stop and also I don’t see any sanctions being put on Isreal for the genocide of a nation .
 

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