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SkyBlueFlux said:
I think if this works out and whoever is the successor manages to turn things around and beat Trump, we might in time come to view this as one of the more selfless and presidential acts of service. It had to be hard for him to come to terms with the fact he had to do this.

I hope for a Whitmer or a Newsom as I think they would represent the best chance of beating Trump. Newsom would make Trump look a fool (even more than he does already) on any debating stage, and so Trump would do everything in his power to avoid that.

I think it will be Harris, and while I reckon she may have a marginally better chance than Biden did, I worry that would be a frying pan and fire kind of outcome.
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She polls much worse against Trump than Biden does.
 
SkyBlueFlux said:
I think if this works out and whoever is the successor manages to turn things around and beat Trump, we might in time come to view this as one of the more selfless and presidential acts of service. It had to be hard for him to come to terms with the fact he had to do this.

I hope for a Whitmer or a Newsom as I think they would represent the best chance of beating Trump. Newsom would make Trump look a fool (even more than he does already) on any debating stage, and so Trump would do everything in his power to avoid that.

I think it will be Harris, and while I reckon she may have a marginally better chance than Biden did, I worry that would be a frying pan and fire kind of outcome.
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I actually think Harris would by default expose the deep racism and misogyny inherent to Trump and the MAGA party—they wouldn’t be able to stop it from consuming the campaign, as we are even seeing with J.D. Vance’s wife right now.

And she is far, far smarter than Trump, Vance, and most of the MAGA politicians at the forefront of that campaign, so would also highlight the idiocy and chaos of the “movement” at pretty much every point without even really trying.

I think Whitmer would also be a great pick from a competence standpoint, but I am not sure she will disrupt the Trump campaign in the same way.

I am still to be convinced by Newsom, if I am honest, but I should probably not go in to my reasons right now.

Otherwise, as usual, you and I generally agree on the ramifications of this decision.

All of that said, I think I’ll just go for that nap I mentioned before I go down the rabbit hole with other posters actually sharing very questionable opinions! ;-)
 
SebastianBlue said:
I actually think Harris would by default expose the deep racism and misogyny inherent to Trump and the MAGA party—they wouldn’t be able to stop it from consuming the campaign, as we are even seeing with J.D. Vance’s wife right now.

And she is far, far smarter than Trump, Vance, and most of the MAGA politicians at the forefront of that campaign, so would also highlight the idiocy and chaos of the “movement” at pretty much every point without even really trying.

I think Whitmer would also be a great pick from a competence standpoint, but I am not sure she will disrupt the Trump campaign in the same way.

I am still to be convinced by Newsom, if I am honest, but I should probably not go in to my reasons right now.

Otherwise, as usual, you and I generally agree on the ramifications of this decision.

All of that said, I think I’ll just go for that nap I mentioned before I go down the rabbit hole with other posters actually sharing very questionable opinions! ;-)
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TinFoilHat said:
Kamala will expose MAGA batshittery purely by standing.

They'll overreach. Possibly she'll win just by doing what Biden did last time. Let Trump hang himself.
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This. The GOP will not be able to help themselves. Many are already calling her the DEI candidate.
 
Johnny Mars Bar said:
I’ll be amazed if it’s not Harris.

If you’re a Gavin Newsom you’ll want to keep your powder dry til 2028 surely.

Sadly I don’t think there’s much they can do now to stop Trump this November.
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Maybe 2032 though. If Harris somehow wins she’ll run for term 2 obviously. And he’d need to position himself ahead of her in 28 if she loses, assuming she’d run again.
 
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