North Stand Construction Discussion

[Coatigan]

Is walking on the ground under a building classed as a bridge? :)

For me the bridge there is if you’re inside the building walking from hotel to stand and vice versa.

I would agree but I am sure that's what I have read them call the upper floors that link the hotel and office to the stand.

Edit, just reread your post, I thinknwe are talking different bits, but never mind, the joke has gone.

 

[Spanishbob]

A better view of the overall size and shape the newly expanded 2nd tier will have now that the end sections are both in place.

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At first glance it appears that the new steel work at both ends of the main structure look like they aren’t in line (seating wise) to the existing stand but noticed a lower cross brace is at the right angle to it.

 

[Coatigan]

At first glance it appears that the new steel work at both ends of the main structure look like they aren’t in line (seating wise) to the existing stand but noticed a lower cross brace is at the right angle to it.

Yeah the whole thing tapers out, then will taper back in, which we won't see for some time yet. If we are taking about the same bit, the very outer ends.

 

[Goatmeal]

When will they start to put the concrete steps in place?

 

[HelloCity]

@Alex - City Matters @Manchester33

Any news on the South Stand corners getting video screens?

They always get included in design docs:

 

[Blue-E]

@Alex - City Matters @Manchester33

Any news on the South Stand corners getting video screens?

They always get included in design docs:

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I'd like to know this also.. From back in SSL3 you can't read any text on the NS screens...

 

[Invisible Man's Bandage]

I'd like to know this also.. From back in SSL3 you can't read any text on the NS screens...

Tickets are much cheaper up there in part to cover the cost of a pair of binoculars....

 

[DiscoSteve]

It'd be interesting to know as those corners currently contain some extra seats built on scaffolding - presumably they will be lost - apologies for the crap zoomed view I captured on the last day of the season! I also note on that graphic the 'new screens' look like they are situated slightly lower than the existing screens - would that be because the ironwork in the South Stand corners are a little bit in the way for any new screens?

 

[HelloCity]

It'd be interesting to know as those corners currently contain some extra seats built on scaffolding - presumably they will be lost - apologies for the crap zoomed view I captured on the last day of the season! I also note on that graphic the 'new screens' look like they are situated slightly lower than the existing screens - would that be because the ironwork in the South Stand corners are a little bit in the way for any new screens?
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I think the view would be ok from the mini seating platforms they've built at the bottom. It would be the platform above where the views would be lost.

 

[richards30]

It'd be interesting to know as those corners currently contain some extra seats built on scaffolding - presumably they will be lost - apologies for the crap zoomed view I captured on the last day of the season! I also note on that graphic the 'new screens' look like they are situated slightly lower than the existing screens - would that be because the ironwork in the South Stand corners are a little bit in the way for any new screens?
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I wonder could they composite clad or similar the corners in to cover the hideous steel work? I know its how it had to be done but visually looks terrible!

 

[DiscoSteve]

I think the view would be ok from the mini seating platforms they've built at the bottom. It would be the platform above where the views would be lost.

we shall see - this zoom suggests there won't be much room.... !?

 

[HelloCity]

we shall see - this zoom suggests there won't be much room.... !?
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I think it would be held up a bit higher than that in reality. I don't think that's a 100% reflection of how it would be positioned.

 

[DiscoSteve]

I think it would be held up a bit higher than that in reality. I don't think that's a 100% reflection of how it would be positioned.

IMHO thats where I think there could be a problem because the ugly ironwork supporting the roof corners impinges on the space needed to raise the screens as you suggest

 

[wolfie1988]

IMHO thats where I think there could be a problem because the ugly ironwork supporting the roof corners impinges on the space needed to raise the screens as you suggest

I know I'm going to make it sound simpler than it probably is, but they just need to have them supported higher and angled slightly down. The screens at the North end of the ground aren't angled at all and the sketch above reflects that to any potential South end ones.

The issue is whether the existing colums could support the weight of the screen or whether extra support would need to be added behind the screens for us to do anything there.

I look at Spurs stadium as an example of how we should have ours at that end of the ground. Our biggest issue is the sightlines for those in SS3 to an angled screen wouldn't be fantastic because there would be people in that tier higher up than the top of the screen would sit

 

[HelloCity]

I know I'm going to make it sound simpler than it probably is, but they just need to have them supported higher and angled slightly down. The screens at the North end of the ground aren't angled at all and the sketch above reflects that to any potential South end ones.

The issue is whether the existing colums could support the weight of the screen or whether extra support would need to be added behind the screens for us to do anything there.

I look at Spurs stadium as an example of how we should have ours at that end of the ground. Our biggest issue is the sightlines for those in SS3 to an angled screen wouldn't be fantastic because there would be people in that tier higher up than the top of the screen would sit

You say similar I think but the temp corner roofs aren’t strong enough to support them so they’d need to build some sort of supporting structure for the screens around the existing corner roof supports.

 

[failsworthblueboy]

we shall see - this zoom suggests there won't be much room.... !?
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We also have a Children's sensory box near the screen at the moment, surely we are not going to abandon this.

 

[Gone for a Burton]

You say similar I think but the temp corner roofs aren’t strong enough to support them so they’d need to build some sort of supporting structure for the screens around the existing corner roof supports.

Why don't simply plagiarise what scruffy cat weasel Jim, the petrochemical tax dodger, does at the swamp of StretSal...he's got all the guys on the case.

**** !!

 

[Manchester33]

@Alex - City Matters @Manchester33

Any news on the South Stand corners getting video screens?

They always get included in design docs:

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I’m not 100% sure but I vaguely remember this being discussed years ago. Think the original plan was to use the two North Stand Screens in the south stand when the NS was expanded. That was well before the designs for the north stand were released though.

I’d be pretty shocked if we didn’t install some screens in the south stand corners.

 

[DiscoSteve]

I found another couple of schematics of those two screens which might give us a clue as to what they're going to do - both from sightline mockups from the back of new North Stand

 

[tailspin747]

It seems they will be mounted much further forward than the current screens, almost inline with the front of the third tier. The added seats for the pub lounges (like The Ardwick) won’t be affected.