Ilkay Gundogan

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Joe Donachie said:
He is not a priority at the moment as I have stated in the Quiet thread, there working hard on another deal on a striker who would be a replacement for Alvarez, city were already down the line with this deal before this gundogan news dropped on there lap, they are trying to reach an agreement on a transfer fee with his club,

City are ruthless though, they always recognise players who have served us well but we are a forward thinking club who move on very quickly from certain players leaving us, they certainly will not be pandering to gundogan, we are aware of a situation regarding him now, but we are concentrating on another deal that is of more importance to us,
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I mean Sam Lee just said it: the club is looking to sign two players before the end of the window. A striker and a midfielder. Why can they not do both?
 
as much as i love Gundog what does this do to Kovacic? not to mention Nunes.

both players will feel redundant (you might not care about the latter but Kova just scored a great goal and has been decent for us)
 
Didsbury Dave said:
The more I think about this the less convinced I am it will happen. I think Pep will consider the impact on Foden, Kovecic, Bernardo and Nunez to be too great.
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The impact on them would be less than a 60-100m player like Bruno Guimaraes or a Danny Olmo coming, that everyone wanted.
 
MarsLlama said:
That is slightly different though as we moved Ferna to a defensive position later on in his career, where suddenly mobility and pace were even more crucial than before even though his legs were less able to provide those things. Great midfielders can sometimes remain great until much older than Ilkay is now.

And that's coming from someone who believe that Fernandinho was a slightly better player than Gundogan! The margins between them are extremely narrow however.
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Still how much time Gundo has got left in his legs is the biggest issue. And besides that we would still have to look for a replacement when he does leave or retire.
 
ysmsa said:
You are assuming everyone stays fit and sharp for the whole season, that never happens.
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No, I'm assuming that if McAtee or O Reilly are on the bench there are probably 4 or 5 players also on that bench that will be ahead of them.
 
genuine question for the people here that say getting him would reduce minutes for foden (and other players) or move him to the wing, what do you guys think would happen if got bruno? we are clearly trying to land a player that can play the 6 & 8 and we are probably getting one next summer.

bruno would also play more minutes than gundo.
 
RayCTID said:
Still how much time Gundo has got left in his legs is the biggest issue. And besides that we would still have to look for a replacement when he does leave or retire.
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We don't have to flog him to death, using him wisely especially as an impact sub will help us. He's a game changer and will help us retain the title.
 
Coatigan said:
The impact on them would be less than a 60-100m player like Bruno Guimaraes or a Danny Olmo coming, that everyone wanted.
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Don’t know anything about those but I know that we are blessed with a lot of central attacking midfielders. It might be KDB’s last season so a young player would possibly be an investment but a short term automatic starter like gundo would hold a few players back.

I love him of course, I’m just not convinced Pep will think it’s right for the bigger picture
 
BlueMoonRisin’ said:
We don't have to flog him to death, using him wisely especially as an impact sub will help us. He's a game changer and will help us retain the title.
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That plan couid easily go out of the window as we did find out last season with both KDB's early injury and Rodri's suspension. He does have the Footballing brain I am not sure he has the legs to return to the Premier League.
 
M Gaudino said:
as much as i love Gundog what does this do to Kovacic? not to mention Nunes.

both players will feel redundant (you might not care about the latter but Kova just scored a great goal and has been decent for us)
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A potential 65+ games this season. Getting Gundogan back to share that workload is a smart move imho. He knows how we play inside out. Very little in terms of a settling in period, and he can now rest during the international breaks

I'm personally struggling to see a downside here
 
Champions again in 2012 said:
A potential 65+ games this season. Getting Gundogan back to share that workload is a smart move imho. He knows how we play inside out. Very little in terms of a settling in period, and he can now rest during the international breaks

I'm personally struggling to see a downside here
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i mean you are right. i fucking love the player.

but just a twinge of sadness for how Kovacic would feel: today he probably woke up feeling on top of the world and like he’d arrived as a city player, finally
 
M Gaudino said:
i mean you are right. i fucking love the player.

but just a twinge of sadness for how Kovacic would feel: today he probably woke up feeling on top of the world and like he’d arrived as a city player, finally
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I've just watched the treble video and the togetherness of the players was incredible. I see Kovacic as a player who has had his first season under Pep and, unlike Phillips and Nunes, understands what he needs to do to play more minutes. With the projected workload I am sure he will get plenty of minutes BUT he may miss out on playing if / when the really big crunch games roll round. Then again I could be spouting complete bollocks. None of us knows how it will pan out either way. When I consider the pro's and cons of bringing Gundo back I see a lot more in the pro's column than the cons column.
 
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