Media discussion - 2024/25

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Proper weird behaviour. It's the type of behaviour you'd expect from the recent riots, where dickheads were throwing bricks at the police for ... doing their jobs?

Looking forward to reading the weasel words of whoever the poster is ("I was gonna spark him out but he absolutely shit his pants so I took pity on him blah blah blah")
With our successes over the last 15 years we've attracted new fans as you'd expect, most of whom will be young. Unfortunately, society is going downhill fast to my eyes at least and those young kids are now late teenage and early twenties and don't seem to have a scooby on how to behave in civilised society. Presumably it's taught or inherited behaviour from parents who weren't much better themselves, the human race is truly fucked.
 
To those criticising fans for confronting the press let me ask you a question how many cheeks are we supposed to turn before its too much, how much slagging off and outright lies are we supposed to take before its too much, im not advocating violence im just curious what peoples opinions are for how much is too much, the press simply cannot stoke up tensions and create situations and then cry when it comes back on them, you only have to look at the riots last week the daily mail have spent years telling people that everything was the immigrants fault blah blah blah and then it all went to shit and they called the far right scum basically criticising the monster they helped create and the same is happening here they have spent years belittling us, slagging us off, denigrating our achievements under a mask of thinly veiled racism and then cry foul when it bites them on the arse, it is an age old adage that if you dont start none then there wont be none and i think we can all readily say that the press have a major hand in creating this environment.

To quote mr inbetween: "The world is full of assholes, Ray, you do realize that." "Yeah, and you know why? Because people let 'em get away with it."
 
Truly bizarre that there are Sam Lee fanboys on here. Surely they can’t be real.
I'm certainly not one but if that's your take on people pushing back on supposed Blues threatening people in public because they write things they disagree with then there's no helping you.

I find the best option is just to not read them, rather than froth at the mouth as some of the mouth breeders on here do.
 
To those criticising fans for confronting the press let me ask you a question how many cheeks are we supposed to turn before its too much, how much slagging off and outright lies are we supposed to take before its too much, im not advocating violence im just curious what peoples opinions are for how much is too much, the press simply cannot stoke up tensions and create situations and then cry when it comes back on them, you only have to look at the riots last week the daily mail have spent years telling people that everything was the immigrants fault blah blah blah and then it all went to shit and they called the far right scum basically criticising the monster they helped create and the same is happening here they have spent years belittling us, slagging us off, denigrating our achievements under a mask of thinly veiled racism and then cry foul when it bites them on the arse, it is an age old adage that if you dont start none then there wont be none and i think we can all readily say that the press have a major hand in creating this environment.

To quote mr inbetween: "The world is full of assholes, Ray, you do realize that." "Yeah, and you know why? Because people let 'em get away with it."
So what are you advocating?
 
I'm not a fan of Sam Lee as he always seems to paint us as guilty when he talks about the PL charges. However what I find most interesting about this non story on a train is how Lee knows the blue who asked him out was a bluemoon poster? The blue must have either said I'm so and so on bluemoon? which is a bit bizarre or Lee must have known him? Neither seems right?
Or maybe Lee is trawling on here and saw the post about the incident.

I wasn't there but, I have had contact with the poster who brought the event up on here in the past and I'd believe him 100% more than anything Lee would say.
 
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I hadnt really thought it through tbh, i wouldnt be against some of them getting a slap tbh as i think it may be the only language some of them understand but then if you express that opinion you are labelled as a knuckle dragging caveman.
I can’t believe we are openly arguing that if you disagree with someone who is doing their job, they deserve a slap.

Honestly society has taken a big nose dive since Covid. Every other fucker has a chip on their shoulder, and a huge sense of entitlement. Kicking off with a person on a train is also big ‘main character syndrome’ vibes. I’m sure he or she was telling all his mates ‘I’m gonna kick off with that journalist. Watch me!’ before heading over.

Still silence from the bluemoon poster who kicked off on the train, I wonder why.
 
I'm certainly not one but if that's your take on people pushing back on supposed Blues threatening people in public because they write things they disagree with then there's no helping you.

I find the best option is just to not read them, rather than froth at the mouth as some of the mouth breeders on here do.
My last word on the matter with you

I was there, no one threatened Sam Lee with any physical violence

The man who spoke to him initially is 63 years of age, not drunk, not on drugs (unless prescribed)

Lee was the aggressive person all the way through it.

Me and you are not on the best of terms so believe what you want but I am telling you no City fan was looking for a fight
 
I can’t believe we are openly arguing that if you disagree with someone who is doing their job, they deserve a slap.

Honestly society has taken a big nose dive since Covid. Every other fucker has a chip on their shoulder, and a huge sense of entitlement. Kicking off with a person on a train is also big ‘main character syndrome’ vibes. I’m sure he or she was telling all his mates ‘I’m gonna kick off with that journalist. Watch me!’ before heading over.

Still silence from the bluemoon poster who kicked off on the train, I wonder why.
Are they doing there job tho, if there job is to stir hatred with continuous opinion pieces then you could argue that yes they are indeed doing their job, it was always my understanding that the press job was to report the events of the day with no bias and just clear and concise facts and if that is their job then i would argue that they are failing miserably at it.

I dont feel entitled to anything at all, i would just like to see balance and a level of reporting that doesnt involve the opinion of the person writing it, sam lee or anyone else is no more qualified than you or I to express his opinion on football or football finance for that matter beyond having a larger platform and being able to express it more eruditely than most and that is all, his opinion is irrelevant just look yours and mine.
 
I can’t believe we are openly arguing that if you disagree with someone who is doing their job, they deserve a slap.

Honestly society has taken a big nose dive since Covid. Every other fucker has a chip on their shoulder, and a huge sense of entitlement. Kicking off with a person on a train is also big ‘main character syndrome’ vibes. I’m sure he or she was telling all his mates ‘I’m gonna kick off with that journalist. Watch me!’ before heading over.

Still silence from the bluemoon poster who kicked off on the train, I wonder why.
You seem to want to keep the fire going though mate.
 
Whats the point, you have made your mind up and your comment calling people weirdos says something. Online weirdos, yet here you are online.

I was there, saw and heard it all but as with anything there is potentially three sides to a story, yours, the other and the truth.

Facts for me are no one threatened Lee, he was the first to call anyone and also the one asking for a fight or shall we say trying to goad someone to fight

Funny how he also found time on the day to apologise to those involved as if he knew he was wrong

But here he is now spinning a yarn on a podcast according to you.

The guy is a lying ****.
@mayo31 please don't let the truth get in the way. It stops Blues attacking other Blues and makes them read all of the posts. There simply isn't the time to do that, far better to make up some shit in defence of a bitter rag hack and move quickly onto another thread.
 
With our successes over the last 15 years we've attracted new fans as you'd expect, most of whom will be young. Unfortunately, society is going downhill fast to my eyes at least and those young kids are now late teenage and early twenties and don't seem to have a scooby on how to behave in civilised society. Presumably it's taught or inherited behaviour from parents who weren't much better themselves, the human race is truly fucked.
@Centurions Wow, that's a huge statement you are making about our new fans. People who have joined in the last 15 years throw rocks at cops and have shit parents.
(Read the post you replied to and then agreed with)
 
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I can’t believe we are openly arguing that if you disagree with someone who is doing their job, they deserve a slap.

Honestly society has taken a big nose dive since Covid. Every other fucker has a chip on their shoulder, and a huge sense of entitlement. Kicking off with a person on a train is also big ‘main character syndrome’ vibes. I’m sure he or she was telling all his mates ‘I’m gonna kick off with that journalist. Watch me!’ before heading over.

Still silence from the bluemoon poster who kicked off on the train, I wonder why.
Definitely Sam.
 
I'm certainly not one but if that's your take on people pushing back on supposed Blues threatening people in public because they write things they disagree with then there's no helping you.

I find the best option is just to not read them, rather than froth at the mouth as some of the mouth breeders on here do.

Just out of interest is it ok to criticise Joey Barton or Tommy Robinson & people of that ilk if they write defamatory stuff. I’d imagine they’d respond aggressively if called out & would lie to their followers if they’ve made a cock of themselves.

You appear to be frothing at the mouth at views your reading whilst giving advice that you aren’t following….
 
I'm not a fan of many journalists who report on City and I hate how the media try and gaslight the fanbase that they are being unreasonable/paranoid for pointing out the clear double standards(bullshitters)... But I do think people can go way over the top with Sam Lee personally. Also, we could do without giving them reasons to attack the fanbase or silence our voices even further. edit: If he's making up stories about being threatened with violence, that would be something new. That would change things going forward but the rest stands.

He's not a City fan and has not pretended to be but has covered City for many years. I think that's were the problem is with the 'snide' articles and angles that have popped up, if was just any other journalist some of the examples given would be bottom of the pile.

Though, I can't work out how he would know they had a lot of posts on bluemoon. Did he give his bluemoon credentials before offering him out? That would make it even more cringeworthy.

Also, wasn't there a journalist who did a piece for the Mail on the UEFA case/CAS verdict who used to be a City fan. I can't seem to find him or his articles, so I may be misremembering things. But I seem to remember one that rivals would use to add weight to the idea that City were in deep trouble because he was siding against City and the ownership all the time. You know the: "He's one of you lot and he admits your club is dodgy" bullshit? Maybe that has added to it and why people are so quick to point out 'Sam is a rag and he's snidey''.

you mean Martin Samuel?
 
I'm not a fan of Sam Lee as he always seems to paint us as guilty when he talks about the PL charges. However what I find most interesting about this non story on a train is how Lee knows the blue who asked him out was a bluemoon poster? The blue must have either said I'm so and so on bluemoon? which is a bit bizarre or Lee must have known him? Neither seems right?
Maybe had his name on the back of his shirt?
 
I'm not a fan of Sam Lee as he always seems to paint us as guilty when he talks about the PL charges. However what I find most interesting about this non story on a train is how Lee knows the blue who asked him out was a bluemoon poster? The blue must have either said I'm so and so on bluemoon? which is a bit bizarre or Lee must have known him? Neither seems right?

he will no doubt look at this page or have an account. Or possibly one of the angry posters commenting on this.

I tweeted him Sunday but got no reply
 
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