President Trump

TonyM said:
Pity Dax is gone. He could have explained this away.
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I'm always here. I just sometimes don't think it's necessary to explain things to people who are clearly smart enough to know better.

If they don't know, it's clearly by choice. They really don't want to. I get it. We are playing team sport here. City always good. Rags always bad. Facts be damned.

I mean the very same people who seem to understand intuitively that Donald Trump's rhetoric is harmful. Also can't fathom what rhetoric is causing multiple people to make an attempt at his life.

Some have even posited that it must be a boomerang of his rhetoric. I mean, some of the claims here are just comedic gold. :)
 
Aphex said:
Anyone who revels in the misfortune of any politician needs to have a look at their moral compass.
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Well, what if it is the politicians own rhetoric that's causing it. Can I revel then? Please say yes. Please!!!
 
Dax777 said:
I'm always here. I just sometimes don't think it's necessary to explain things to people who are clearly smart enough to know better.

If they don't know, it's clearly by choice. They really don't want to. I get it. We are playing team sport here. City always good. Rags always bad. Facts be damned.

I mean the very same people who seem to understand intuitively that Donald Trump's rhetoric is harmful. Also can't fathom what rhetoric is causing multiple people to make an attempt at his life.

Some have even posited that it must be a boomerang of his rhetoric. I mean, some of the claims here are just comedic gold. :)
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I can certainly understand how rhetoric could result in extreme attitudes towards politicians. At this stage we don't know why either person undertook the actions they did, it may have been policy, it may have been personality, it may have been rhetoric.

Trump/Vance have presumed but let's be honest, we all know that's because it gives them a chance to have a go at Harris. And no other reason.

And while its great for Vance to call for a general toning down of rhetoric in politics, he does it while amping up his own wjich has been disgusting to start with. And that's before I mention the rhetoric that comes out of his bosses mouth.
 
FogBlueInSanFran said:
It may have had nothing to do with any of that shit. It may have been a cry for attention. Can you think of many people you could assassinate that would get you MORE attention?
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Both would-be assassins were/are mentally unstable. From what little I know about the first assassin, attributing his motivation as a "cry for attention" seems reasonable.

The second assassin, however, wrote a book urging Iran to assassinate Trump. #2 seems to have real grievances towards Trump: attention seeking doesn't seem to be his primary motivation.

Who knows though...
 
Dax777 said:
I'm always here. I just sometimes don't think it's necessary to explain things to people who are clearly smart enough to know better.

If they don't know, it's clearly by choice. They really don't want to. I get it. We are playing team sport here. City always good. Rags always bad. Facts be damned.

I mean the very same people who seem to understand intuitively that Donald Trump's rhetoric is harmful. Also can't fathom what rhetoric is causing multiple people to make an attempt at his life.

Some have even posited that it must be a boomerang of his rhetoric. I mean, some of the claims here are just comedic gold. :)
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I thought I saw a thread where you said you were leaving and to be honest I thought "Probably for the best".

You may be a nice person behind it all (I hope so) but your mind/morals/logic/ethics (not sure which) is warped when it comes to Trump.

I agree things are rarely black and white. But even if there are a few things I'd generally understand on the Right and disagree with on the Left, it is clear as day that Trump is a danger and the morons who attend his rallies are the most embarrassing element of American culture. Despite the 2 assassination attempts the Dems still have the higher moral ground. This is as close to black and white as you get.

Trump is a ****.
 
TonyM said:
I thought I saw a thread where you said you were leaving and to be honest I thought "Probably for the best".

You may be a nice person behind it all (I hope so) but your mind/morals/logic/ethics (not sure which) is warped when it comes to Trump.

I agree things are rarely black and white. But even if there are a few things I'd generally understand on the Right and disagree with on the Left, it is clear as day that Trump is a danger and the morons who attend his rallies are the most embarrassing element of American culture. Despite the 2 assassination attempts the Dems still have the higher moral ground. This is as close to black and white as you get.

Trump is a ****.
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It blows my mind that you think I'm the one who's morals is warped considering the highlighted.

I agree with almost everything you've said here. And you've always come across as a decent person.

But the bolded above is mind boggling. The only thing that's absolutely certain is that Democrats hold zero moral high ground. Intuitively even you can see that. Hence why you subconsciously dismiss the evidence that shows the opposite of what you believe.
 
moomba said:
I can certainly understand how rhetoric could result in extreme attitudes towards politicians. At this stage we don't know why either person undertook the actions they did, it may have been policy, it may have been personality, it may have been rhetoric.
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Only if the media would take this attitude when it comes to rhetoric from the right. There is a double standard here. It's so glaring. Rhetoric from.the left is simply passion and facts. While rhetoric from the right is dangerous, hateful, harmful and endangers lives.

But somehow it's only the life of one candidate that constantly seems at peril.


moomba said:
Trump/Vance have presumed but let's be honest, we all know that's because it gives them a chance to have a go at Harris. And no other reason.

And while its great for Vance to call for a general toning down of rhetoric in politics, he does it while amping up his own wjich has been disgusting to start with. And that's before I mention the rhetoric that comes out of his bosses mouth.
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It's a fair presumption. When you call someone an existential threat, a Hitler, a threat to Democracy, a Dictator. Someone who should be punched, put in the bullseye, someone who should be pushed back on and let them know we wthey are not wanted....

There is only so much of repeating this nonsense you can do before someone takes matter into there own hands.
 
Dax777 said:
It blows my mind that you think I'm the one who's morals is warped considering the highlighted.

I agree with almost everything you've said here. And you've always come across as a decent person.

But the bolded above is mind boggling. The only thing that's absolutely certain is that Democrats hold zero moral high ground. Intuitively even you can see that. Hence why you subconsciously dismiss the evidence that shows the opposite of what you believe.
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The Democrats have nothing to do with the 2 assassination attempts. Those guys are nuts. Nothing said by the Democrats has encouraged hate. They instead ridicule those foolish enough to follow a lunatic like Trump.
 
Dax777 said:
It blows my mind that you think I'm the one who's morals is warped considering the highlighted.

I agree with almost everything you've said here. And you've always come across as a decent person.

But the bolded above is mind boggling. The only thing that's absolutely certain is that Democrats hold zero moral high ground. Intuitively even you can see that. Hence why you subconsciously dismiss the evidence that shows the opposite of what you believe.
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What comes across to me is that America holds no higher ground generally. It baffles me how they think they have the right to police the world. It’s self interest only when it comes to foreign policy.

Would I have them do that over Russia however. Absolutely. Unfortunately thems the choices and that’s the world we live in.

Looking from the outside in to the American election I know for sure I wouldn’t give Trump, the steam off my piss.
Apart from being a gobshite, the power behind him have an agenda that would seek to alter the prospects of maintaining any sort of democracy even further.

America looks a mess to me. Even if Kamala gets the presidency she doesn’t seem to have a mandate to govern half a continent or a third perhaps depending on how you count the votes, the way they want to be governed.

That’s unsustainable in the not too distant long run in my view.
 
Dax777 said:
Only if the media would take this attitude when it comes to rhetoric from the right. There is a double standard here. It's so glaring. Rhetoric from.the left is simply passion and facts. While rhetoric from the right is dangerous, hateful, harmful and endangers lives.

But somehow it's only the life of one candidate that constantly seems at peril.



It's a fair presumption. When you call someone an existential threat, a Hitler, a threat to Democracy, a Dictator. Someone who should be punched, put in the bullseye, someone who should be pushed back on and let them know we wthey are not wanted....

There is only so much of repeating this nonsense you can do before someone takes matter into there own hands.
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Are you blaming JD Vance for inciting people against Trump?
 
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