New CL Format Thoughts

Benefits of the new system...travelling fans MIGHT get to visit a country or city they haven't visited before.
Drawbacks..too many to mention like meaningless games, mismatches, extra games and travelling for already overplayed players, loss of interest from fans, extra cost for fans already feeling the pinch.
And as I type, Atalanta have just scored a third away too Donestk
 
117 M34 said:
Think there is less jeopardy, especially for the 'middle' level teams like Atalanta and sporting.
They know they won't get top 8 and won't be bottom 8 so can just play their games knowing they will almost certainly be in the play off rounds.
In the old format, they would have been fighting to finish 2nd instead of 3rd.
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See that was the best thing about the 4 team group. Anything could happen and it did. I've Rangers friends up here who still shudder at the 2009 CL campaign, so close for the Romanians and lets not forget APOEL from our bow in the competition 2011/12 as well. I just don't feel this new format at all. No pressure after a draw at home with Inter, no fear about the return fixture, plenty of games to turn it around. Maybe it will liven up for me com match day 6.

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flook said:
still shit
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What did you expect?

The formats strengths and weaknesses are really clear. We get more unique games instead of drawing the same teams every year, there’s a much better chance of smaller teams getting into the last 16, and there should be some last-day-of-the-season bedlam across the last few match days.

The negatives are more games against weaker opposition and the longer format means it’ll take longer to get interesting.


We won’t really be able to assess this format for ~5 years, when there’s been a chance for those weaker teams to reap the financial rewards and get better, and hopefully make some deep runs to break up the monotony of the last 8 in the previous format.
 
Cumbie Blue said:
See that was the best thing about the 4 team group. Anything could happen and it did. I've Rangers friends up here who still shudder at the 2009 CL campaign, so close for the Romanians and lets not forget APOEL from our bow in the competition 2011/12 as well. I just don't feel this new format at all. No pressure after a draw at home with Inter, no fear about the return fixture, plenty of games to turn it around. Maybe it will liven up for me com match day 6.

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The problem is you had to go back 12 years to find an example, and since then the concentration of money at the top of European football has just accelerated so these kind of groups were becoming once in a decade events.
 
The group stage wasn't perfect but I don't see how this new format solves anything. There are still plenty of meaningless matches and I haven't noticed an increased number of "big" clubs playing each other.
 
domalino said:
What did you expect?

The formats strengths and weaknesses are really clear. We get more unique games instead of drawing the same teams every year, there’s a much better chance of smaller teams getting into the last 16, and there should be some last-day-of-the-season bedlam across the last few match days.

The negatives are more games against weaker opposition and the longer format means it’ll take longer to get interesting.


We won’t really be able to assess this format for ~5 years, when there’s been a chance for those weaker teams to reap the financial rewards and get better, and hopefully make some deep runs to break up the monotony of the last 8 in the previous format.
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Agreed. Let’s be honest most posters on BM are traditionalists and would go back to a straight knock out of domestic league winners where City go out to Real Madrid in the first round who then go on to beat Honved 10-0 in the Final. We live in a bit of a bubble. Your positives and negatives is a very fair summary.
 
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Dave Ewing's Back 'eader said:
It's all that Uefa are interested in - more games, more money, fuck the fans 'n fuck the players.
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Don’t let the clubs off mate. I reckon UEFA are only doing what the clubs push them to.

Every boardroom is as bad as each other. They also think ‘fuck the fans n fuck the players’.

At no point were any fans, players or coaches consulted over these changes. We’re the ones paying to watch the games, the players are the ones playing in them and the coaches preparing the players… while the boardrooms and UEFA count the beans.

Gündoğan came out when these changes were announced a few years ago and said something along the lines of, ‘I don’t know why they’re making changes, I love playing in the Champions League as it is’.
 
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xgorton said:
We have more International shit coming up soon,more injuries possible.
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Don’t get me started on international football.

Fucking came back from a tournament where some players had no pre-season and haven’t even got started really yet this season (Foden, Walker, Stones) or who are completely fucked (Rodri) and we’ll already have had two international breaks come next weekend.

Set of cunts.
 
jaiguruKun said:
The group stage wasn't perfect but I don't see how this new format solves anything. There are still plenty of meaningless matches and I haven't noticed an increased number of "big" clubs playing each other.
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I’ve noticed more goals and less draws I think. Too early to tell.
 
It’s terrible. No jeopardy at all for any of the half decent sides. The old format wasn’t great but there was always 2/3 groups that were decent.Less teams eliminated but almost double the matches. There is no dressing this shite up I’m afraid.
 
Chelsea are playing in the conference ( I think ) and should win it even though they have omitted several players, including Palmer, from their panel.
The " poorer" teams in the new format are just making up the numbers and getting trounced by the big teams cannot be good for these teams and the competition itself
 
domalino said:
We won’t really be able to assess this format for ~5 years, when there’s been a chance for those weaker teams to reap the financial rewards and get better, and hopefully make some deep runs to break up the monotony of the last 8 in the previous format.
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The weaker teams will reap the financial rewards compared to their domestic competitor's but while their domestic competitor's get 10p, they get £1 while the already wealthy get £100 it won't improve this abomination of a competition
 
It’s fucking shite I know we are meant to embrace change but this is sort of overkill too many games and just awful in my opinion..Uefa pandering and worried that the super league will rear its head again so came up with this shite..
 
domalino said:
The problem is you had to go back 12 years to find an example, and since then the concentration of money at the top of European football has just accelerated so these kind of groups were becoming once in a decade events.
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From memory and wind ups sure, from wiki 2020 Munchengladbag made it from pot 4 to the knock outs. 2021 Sherif so close and Barca in the Europa coming third, 2022 Club Bruge made it from pot 4, 2023 Real Sociaidad made it as well and we had the delight of United finishing bottom. Granted thats only one team from outside the big 5 but it shows the "peril" that the smaller groups contained. You just needed 2 off games and you're gone, out of Europe by Christmas.
 
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