City launch legal action against the Premier League | Club & PL reach settlement | Proceedings dropped (p1147)

bobbyowenquiff said:
That Newcastle evidence and the suggestion from Tolmie there are also damning emails could damage the PL's reputation even more. It is obvious they have been acting in bad faith all along.
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This could work well in the other case concerning the none cooperation charges if the club had no trust in the PL.
 
bridgeno1 said:
Yeah but it isn't retrospectively applied. So they'll have to factor in an extra £20m for the loans or so however in reality what you'll see is a massive Walmart sponsorship deal at whatever value the Kroenkes can get away with so I don't think it affects Arsenal in reality as that will just replace the shareholder loans. It's the same money basically.

Smaller clubs without super wealthy owners who own other massive companies may feel it more though.
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Doesn't that just sum up why FFP was brought in by the bigger clubs, such as Arsenal Utd and LFC?...to make it harder for other "smaller" clubs to challenge.
 
bluetonium said:
It's not unusual for companies in breech of competition law to be fined, in the UK it's 10% of your income. If that does happen, and furthermore legal costs and even city sueing for loss of income is on the cards, where is all that money coming from?

I think we've all seen Masters is a dead man walking for some time, certainly City did when we made those comments about his understudy being so gracious to attend our premier league winners crowning last season.

The endgame here is not to dispose of all rules, nor to open up a free for all. It's to bring a fairness and transparency of a legally sound framework for each member club to adhere to, even if they'd rather be kept blindfolded, and to remove the diseased self-appointed aristocracy of the English game to prevent them continuing to shape the game to their benefit.

If the premier league is the glass house.....
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Alison Brittan is not his understudy IMG_0112.jpeg
 
I haven’t finished reading the full judgement yet but I am celebrating the crucial wins. No way out for the PL.
 
paulchapo said:
Given the damning verdict, especially the three verdicts of unlawful and Tolmie saying the emails they had to hand over were pretty incriminating against them, I would think they'd be on damage limitation mode now. If I was them it would be along these lines:

"Given the recent verdict in the Manchester City case and the failings in our rules and the application of them, we have decided our other case against Manchester City will now no longer proceed.
Manchester City football club leave these proceedings without a stain on their character and we unreservedly apologise to their owners, chairman, manager, players and fans for any distress these proceedings have caused them."
Or words to that effect....
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Dream on
 
Perhaps overlooked in all the excitement is the following conclusion from the ruling.

The Tribunal has determined both that the rules are structurally unfair and that the Premier League was specifically unfair in how it applied those rules to the Club in practice.

The second part of this statement is particularly damning given that the Tribunal clearly believed there to be evidence of the PL deliberately acting in bad faith towards one of its own member clubs. Note use of the word 'specifically'. In addition to a legitimate claim for lost sponsorship income, this must also open the door to a claim for damages on the grounds that the PL failed to apply its rules against City in a fair and equitable manner. If so, let's rinse the corrupt bastards!
 
I will quote Sir Walter Smith, formerly of thy Fan Zone, who said it best
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jimharri said:



One or two surprising names in there. Or perhaps not, given how they may benefit from the verdict.
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Yep, various WHU fan twitter accounts though reminding people that not every fan supports the views and actions of their chairman, feeling being that vast majority of WHU fanbase were against siding with the PL...the rest of the clubs though...well....
 
ayrshire_blue said:
This from Nick De Marco KC

"Manchester City v The Premier League

Today we have finally been able to read the written reasons in the MCFC v PL arbitration about the legality of the PL’s Associated Party Transaction Rules (‘APT’) and their application.

As is often the case with lawyers, both sides have declared victory. The truth is somewhere in between, with each side winning on different issues. The fact, however, that parts of the PL’s APT Rules have been declared unlawful is significant. Just a few days after the European Court found parts of FIFA’s RSTP were unlawful, and coming not long after the ESL case in Europe (finding FIFA and UEFA rules to be unlawful), and the decision of an FA Rule Arbitral Tribunal that The FIFA and FA’s cap on football agents fees was unlawful, the case represents another example of the increasing tendency of courts and tribunals to hold sports regulators to closer scrutiny than has previously been the case the – in particular where economic activity is involved and where issues of freedom of movement and competition law arise. In addition, some of MCFC’s ‘wins’ in the APT case were based on English public law principles of procedural fairness.

I have been inundated with media requests to discuss the decision, which I must decline, and say no more than I do here for now. Many of the clients I advise will have various issues and interests that will arise from the decision, so it would be inappropriate for me to speak about it now, or express my own opinion.

All that I can say is we are living in the most exciting time for sports law. I have never myself been one to celebrate the greater commercialisation and therefore legalisation of sport and its regulation, but it is a real fact of life and economic activity, such that this tendency for greater scrutiny of sports regulation is inevitable.

It does perhaps also lend further support to the calls for greater independence, and transparency, in the regulation of sport."
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Read between the lines, some worried people about.The verdict not going to make much difference is it.Mmmmm
 
bridgeno1 said:
Depends what evidence CAS had vs what the PL had and put before the panel - plus the PL now has a raging hard-on for City so even if one charge sticks I suspect they'll be inclined to go in hard and dry.

I actually think this is the beginning of the end for the PL anyway - shit refereeing and shit legal frameworks. The PL was created when the Clubs moved away from existing ecosystem and I suspect the same will happen again.
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It’s the same evidence you silly sod
 
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