City launch legal action against the Premier League | Club & PL reach settlement | Proceedings dropped (p1147)

Ducado said:
Wow that's pretty explosive and unprecedented, sooner or later though all sides are going to have to sit down and talk, but this constant war against City and to a smaller extent Newcastle has to stop, most fair minded people know what it's all about, a cartel of clubs trying to protect their financial interests by foul means
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Personally no. We are already seeing journalists who were saying yesterday that we had secured a huge victory over the premier league backtracking. Why? Because the cartel has got to them. It has to be proven beyond any doubt that United, Arsenal and Liverpool, possibly Spurs as well, conspired to stop us by any means possible, legal or not. They also used their friends in the media to orchestrate a sustained and relentless smear campaign against us. Also for whatever reasons they got smaller clubs onside to rig the vote. Possible bribery. We have to fight to the death here. We all know these things are facts and it's now all or nothing.
 
So City didnt lose this one and are already questioning the PLs response as inaccurate.
Chess wise its close to check mate and the PL will certainly need new leaders asap with Masters first to go.
 
slbsn said:
I’ve read it. I’ve spent most of the last 10 years in litigation (claimant and defendant). This bad tempered fundamental disagreement is normal. It’s genuinely held but it’s also inherently one sided. That’s not a criticism- it’s a fact. I can be certain that the PL really also believe they won.
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What’s your reading of city writing to all the other clubs today stating the opposite? The next meeting could be a massive punch up! Thanks for keeping Jordan under control earlier.
 
slbsn said:
I’ve read it. I’ve spent most of the last 10 years in litigation (claimant and defendant). This bad tempered fundamental disagreement is normal. It’s genuinely held but it’s also inherently one sided. That’s not a criticism- it’s a fact. I can be certain that the PL really also believe they won.
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So they have to go away, completely rewrite the rules on this topic as they have been acting unlawfully. They have had egg on their face in court and they believe they won? Bloody hell, how do you get in these highly paid jobs at the premier league, whilst clearly being delusional and thick.
 
mac said:
Fuck the tarquins. I hope rvery single prick is devastated. Cunts the fucking lot of them.
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Yes like the scousers and rags the majority are thick mouthy scumbags. I have no love for them either. They are however just as powerless as ourselves on how their club is run.
 
slbsn said:
Have you read all of the judgment. Be honest.

The end result was pretty much as I expected - main principles upheld and some meaningful but not necessarily decisive wins. Like it or not that is my objective view. You don’t need to agree but it is based on reading what was said not simply my life long football bias.

And even if you don’t agree it doesn’t change that challenges like this are very hard to win which was a point you seem to also disagree with
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I think you make the point well.

You offer your financial and legal opinion based on the facts you have. It is not clouded by bias, hyperbole and wishful thinking.

You may/may not have access to ‘inside information’ on City, like some helpful journalists and Tolmie, which means they could come out with statements that precede your knowledge… but because you have no sight of the ‘inside information’ , it is not relevant to your stance.

A stance that even when shown to be cautious, or even in slight error, is admirable, unbiased and impeccably presented.

Note: this is not a hagiography, it’s just a response to some of the bizarre takes by some posters on here about you, that seem to be trying for a ‘gotcha!’ Moment
 
blueparrot said:
Yes, and thats the impression I got. That the rules before 21 we were okay with.
“The tribunal has declared the APT rules to be unlawful. MCFC’s [Manchester City’s] position is that this means all of the APT rules are void, and have been since 2021.
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Fair enough. Maybe I misunderstood. When you said go back to the 2021 rules, you meant FFP pre-APT? Not the APT rules approved in 2021?
 
gordondaviesmoustache said:
It can be plainly seen from the carefully crafted and worded press release that the PL don’t believe they have won.
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You'd also assume that the clubs legal team have pronounced it a win as the statement yesterday and the subsequent letter are very strongly worded. If they were trying to put a gloss on the outcome they would be far more 'open to interpretation' as the PL response is.
 
thismeansfour said:
You can't be balanced in a situation like this. It wasn't a score draw, how can a draw be claimed when they've found to be unlawful? Jordan I think spouts his mouth off before looking at the facts, when he takes the time to look at said facts he tends to draw the right conclusion. If he was stubborn and stuck to a narrative no matter the evidence then he'd be called out for that. I admire somebody being able to backtrack when looking at all the facts. He plays down the 115 an awful lot too these days, probably after doing his own research. Stefan seems to have a stubbornness because he was wrong originally and has played everything down ever since.
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I pointed out Stefan's motives in the FFP thread, & was rounded on by the forum's chief Yesterdays Man for it, but I'm glad others are beginning to sense what I did.

Stefan's become known in the mainstream media as some sort of City Insider & it seems his doom & gloom assessments are more about building on his growing public platform, than citing rational facts.

It's as simple as this imo... If City are guilty of what amounts to massive fraud, where are HMRC, FCA & the Serious Fraud Squad?

Our company accounts have been audited & certified by one of the world's leading auditors, & are available to view at Companies House. What additional info is necessary regarding PSR etc?

Once these tribunal processes are over, of what use will Stefan be to Talk Shite?

I've recently seen him popping up on my news feed as a "City Insider" discussing how much we've got to spend in January & on which transfer targets.

This is why I pointed out that his assessments may be factual, but I suspected they're also given with Stefan's long-term media future in mind.

It does City no favours to see headlines like: "City Insider: City likely to be relegated & sued our of existence!". It's hyperbole we can do without, hence why I no longer read anything Stefan has to say. He's quite evidently got a personal media agenda to nurture.
 
hammocity said:
It doesn't hide the fact the CAS representative nominated by the Premier League still sided with them and voted against us. "Impeccable" reputations you say, ffs that's funny.
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Ok that's fine but then you will also have to accept as credible allegations from opposition fans that the judges in this case were corrupted?
 
OrigamiNinja said:
You would think both sides would want him gone. City for obvious reasons but even if you were United/Liverpool/Arsenal, you would surely look at this and think that this guy isn’t fit for purpose. He was brought in to protect certain clubs and he can’t deliver.
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They do have an history of appointing wankers.
 
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waspish said:
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is the fucked up text my browser or him?
 
waspish said:
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What he said.
 
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