City launch legal action against the Premier League | Club & PL reach settlement | Proceedings dropped (p1147)

[Robanompivenov]

Agree with this, with the proviso that in this particular aspect his views have been largely incorrect all the way through, now he just seems to be doubling down on much of that, fair enough, but he has still been mostly incorrect throughout the APT proceedings.

Elaborate, what has he gotten so wrong?

 

[Stoned Rose]

I suppose it's better than the 'Name your food themed City 11" threads.

Kalvin Phillips and 10 Kalvin Phillipses.

 

[ancoats]

Could spend forever trying to dig up your talksport segment so put a simple search on your name and here's you quoted in the Daily Mail.
If you're misquoted you best get your legal hat on,if not you're beginning to look rather stupid over this.View attachment 134361

Stefan Borson talking about United Covid 19 and Jim's shares fees and fudging £75million to get around PSR, He was slapped on the back of the hand by talkSPORT and made him retract his statement in what he said because United complained, A couple of days later on talkSPORT he's saying United did Nothing Wrong hahahaha

 

[halfcenturyup]

I’m not getting involved in the debate about Stefan, but will say that he does appear on the face of it to be, as they say, up his own arse a bit at times and not particularly humble in appreciating he isn’t all knowing and likely to be correct 100% of the time. That’s his prerogative, of course, but I don’t think there’s anything wrong with people feeling rubbed up the wrong way by his current stance.

What are you expecting? He's a lawyer ....

 

[mccity]

I mean Stefan's just giving his opinion, and it's better that he's honest with what he thinks than just pander to us on here

I do believe there's some more legitimate frustrations being wrongly taken out on Stefan. Namely, barring the occasional Martin Samuel article, there doesn't seem to be anyone with a remotely mainstream presence that will even as much as consider the City side of things

Pretty much every vocal journalist and pundit is of the opinion that City were wrong to take on the PL and are guilty (and will be fine guilty as long as there's no corruption) of what the PL has accused the club of. There's not even a consideration of the scenario that City might not be in the wrong. City just 100% are bad in their minds

Then Stefan comes along, doesn't toe the party line, and we finally have a presence that's not blindly anti City. We get an actual informed opinion on matters. So now that he's gone the way we didn't expect with an opinion, it represents that frustration people yet again have with a lack of a voice, and so Stefan unfairly takes the brunt

And it's all so weird. Why are these "for the good of football" journalists and pundits do pro PL. This is an organisation that serves to support United, Arsenal and Liverpool. Take a club like Villa. If the PL has its way, Villa would 100% fade into midtable or worse eventually. There's nothing they or Emery could do to counter that. How's that good for the game?

 

[Gazza]

Kalvin Phillips and 10 Kalvin Phillipses.

Not quite got the hang of this, have you?

 

[blueste41]

How can so few at the Premier League, fuck something up that is good for so many people, that the competition no longer has any credibility ?

They have essentially conspired with a select few clubs to cheat, basically.

As long as the select few were alright, they turned a blind eye to them and restricted the growth of others.

They must have been taking advice from that twat Tebas.

I said to an Everton fan last night, that there would only be City left in the top division because the rest of the cheating cunts will be relegated.

I don't believe they went as far as to conspire with the established elite, however I do believe they are guilty of listening to those with the loudest voices. You also have to remember that to bring in any change they need 14 clubs to agree to that change, it's hard to blatantly cheat under that system.

 

[Centurions]

Perhaps not as he has been very busy reading the whole 176 pages of the report and commented in detail on a lot of it. It's not his job to put forward a pro-City stance, that is the club's responsibility. People should lay off Stefan, he's been staunch in defending us (based on facts) and they should be more critical of the silence from City for much of the last 8 months.

Agree wholeheartedly with the first part but City were never (and couldn't for that matter) issue any comments whatsoever beforehand. You can't complain that UEFA for instance can't keep their mouths shut and then go making statements randomly. They've always held counsel until they deem the time is right. It's called class.

 

[At-Swim-Two-Birds]

Leroy Sane

Charlie Pringle

 

[johnny crossan]

The same people will moan about the red top biased coverage in the media. Some people only seem to want objectivity when it aligns with their cause

The rather obvious point you miss is that you can support City and be objective about redtop biased media coverage and City's victory in this case. (see page 901 btw)

 

[Gray]

Now is the time to stop issuing free admittance to our stadium for unfriendly media companies. Make them pay for entry and food & drink. Show them we are not putting up with their bile any longer.

 

[Kippax77]

I don't believe they went as far as to conspire with the established elite, however I do believe they are guilty of listening to those with the loudest voices. You also have to remember that to bring in any change they need 14 clubs to agree to that change, it's hard to blatantly cheat under that system.

They can cheat during a game in front of millions.
Thick skinned these fuckers

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

Neither of those are informed?

No, neither have Everton been.

 

[Colin Bells Boots]

The very idea of "winning" in a case like this is a little bit bonkers.
FIFA claimed a "win" the other day about the Diarra case too. Everybody always claims a win all the time. Ultimately there is no winner and loser, theres just some rules to be tweaked and everything carries on as usual.

If people can't accept that winning and losing don't really exist in a case against the PL then they're going to be very annoyed when the 115 judgement comes out. Nobody will win that either, despite both sides claiming that they did.

We are a shareholder of the PL. There is no us and them, there is just us.

We are a shareholder of the PL whose existence and operations have been attacked and besmirched as a consequence of the dishonesty and lack of integrity of the CEO.

The CEO has also been responsible for introducing laws which have been found to be unlawful and directly affecting the running of the club.

In introducing such rules at the behest of certain US owned clubs, City have been denied to same financial operating conditions as teams operating in direct. Those teams have a lso been able to rely upon financial loans to boost their income, and yet not have those loans reflected in their PSR assessments, and have therefore benefitted unfairly when compared to less favoured teams.

Your approach seems to ignore the outcome of the tribunal's decision for the sake of accuracy.

The use of the word " winning " by posters, whilst technically incorrect, is used to express their feelings possibly relief, fear of the challenge not being upheld, and is an expression of the club's success in challenging and being successful against the cabal.

Rather than insisting on pedantry, perhaps allow posters a few moments of enjoyment ?

 

[Robanompivenov]

For starters, you reposted this tweet. So I presume at the time when you reposted, you were in agreement with Tariq?

I've have respected/agreed with you on many points for years now, but in this particular case, I find your stance very odd indeed. Your unwillingness to back down from your viewpoint that city haven't gained any significant victory in this hearing, is just plain bizarre.

Are retweets automatically an endorsement now? If so someone should tell @Don Howe

 

[IcriedwhenTueartleft]

The club have conducted themselves correctly throughout and Stefan has got the big call wrong - he's has rubbished Martin Samuel and contradicted City's legal spokesman. Needs to wind his neck in now.

He hasn't "rubbished" Martin Samuel, just suggested that he has gone slightly OTT with some of his comments.

 

[moggymoz]

Roger Palmer Ham

Oh look, another fuckin thread ruined. Hope the Mods get a grip before it's to late.

 

[Cobwebcat]

Well found.

He says it’s an “educated guess” rather than a fact though. One is an opinion as part of the larger picture which turned out to be incorrect.

I think there is a difference but people seem to want an admission or apology and I don’t know why. Has Stephan said his opinions are always correct somewhere?

 

[Dogtanian]

This thread is starting to read like father Ted's acceptance speech let me know when we get onto bastards

 

[freshie]

The rather obvious point you miss is that you can support City and be objective about redtop biased media coverage and City's victory in this case. (see page 901 btw)

You can also support City and be objective about the judgment