City launch legal action against the Premier League | Club & PL reach settlement | Proceedings dropped (p1147)

meltonblue said:
Bit of both isn’t it? The PL ultimately did prove, to the satisfaction of the tribunal at least, that they weren’t FMV.
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Surely the sponsorship deal could still be signed but only the FMV part would be allowed to go towards the PSR.

For example, if a company wanted to sponsor City for £100 million and the PL decided that £50 million was the FMV, then only £50 million could be used for PSR and the other for non-footballing reasons.

However, it does pose the question of how the PL calculate FMV and whether they can block sponsors in its entirety.
 
After taking the day to wait for people qualified to analyse this to analyse this, the idea that City won some major win and Stefan was downplaying it is clearly wrong.
Having read The Lawyer's take on it, I'm surprised he thinks it was even a "score draw" frankly.
 
meltonblue said:
Bit of both isn’t it? The PL ultimately did prove, to the satisfaction of the tribunal at least, that they weren’t FMV.
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This is where I do believe we don’t do ourselves any favours. Why at a time of the club being under such scrutiny for sponsorships, do we give the PL a chance to make these decisions? The people at the club aren’t stupid, they must know when they submit a deal to the PL for review, that they’re going to look at it unfavourably given half a chance. I don’t think it’s particularly wise on our part to push and push and push these AD deals to the absolute limit.
 
Dannyblue52 said:
I assume that was based on the Premier Leagues calculations. Is there a right of appeal? Or are the calculations based upon generally accepted practices. City must have some evidence of benchmarking to argue their case. Would be Interesting to compare all clubs in Europe to see where arguably the best team in Europe ranks.
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It’s based on Nielsons assessment, comparisons to other transactions in the databank and benchmark analysis done by the PL. Us not having access to the latter two were the reasons the decisions for the Etihad and FAB deals to be set aside. The latter was also due to an unacceptable delay.
 
daztrueblue91 said:
Surely the sponsorship deal could still be signed but only the FMV part would be allowed to go towards the PSR.

For example, if a company wanted to sponsor City for £100 million and the PL decided that £50 million was the FMV, then only £50 million could be used for PSR and the other for non-footballing reasons.

However, it does pose the question of how the PL calculate FMV and whether they can block sponsors in its entirety.
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Yes that’s exactly what happened.
 
Dannyblue52 said:
I assume that was based on the Premier Leagues calculations. Is there a right of appeal? Or are the calculations based upon generally accepted practices. City must have some evidence of benchmarking to argue their case. Would be Interesting to compare all clubs in Europe to see where arguably the best team in Europe ranks.
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The main point of City's challenge was that the PL would not share their benchmarking data from the database they had. The only people allowed to access it were the PL's Legal Advisory Group. So City were not even given a full explanation of how the PL decided what was fair value. The Judges ruled that was an unfair process.
 
Damocles said:
After taking the day to wait for people qualified to analyse this to analyse this, the idea that City won some major win and Stefan was downplaying it is clearly wrong.
Having read The Lawyer's take on it, I'm surprised he thinks it was even a "score draw" frankly.
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You think we lost?
 
Jogon 127 said:
He was quite funny when he went mainstream, then a boring ****, his recent stuff was slightly better and reached chuckling level.

But now he can fuck right off, the bitter scouse miserable bindipping shitehawk.

Shouldn’t be anywhere near the co-op. He won’t sell out anyway.
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Imagine listening to that scouse accent for a couple of hours. Yikes.
 
OrigamiNinja said:
This is where I do believe we don’t do ourselves any favours. Why at a time of the club being under such scrutiny for sponsorships, do we give the PL a chance to make these decisions? The people at the club aren’t stupid, they must know when they submit a deal to the PL for review, that they’re going to look at it unfavourably given half a chance. I don’t think it’s particularly wise on our part to push and push and push these AD deals to the absolute limit.
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Agreed. Never been keen on it.
 
Nick Harris/ Magic Hat, howling at the moon tonight on Twitter. One of his claims is some city executives will have to fall on their swords for the failures in the APT case
 
ComfySeats said:
The incoming apt rule changes
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Shade premature

The City email went on to criticise plans to reform the ATP rules. The league has not commented on the email but said in its response to the verdict that failings in the rules “can quickly and effectively be remedied by the League and clubs”. The league has called an emergency shareholders meeting for next week to discuss plans, though they will not immediately be put to a vote.
Cliff said an imminent change to the rules should be “of even greater concern” to clubs. “Given the findings in the award, this is the time for careful reflection and consideration by all clubs, and not for a kneejerk reaction,” he wrote. “Such an unwise course would be likely to lead to further legal proceedings with further legal costs. It is critical for member clubs to feel that they can have trust in their regulator.
 
Nightmare Walking said:
City have lost nothing as they had nothing to lose. The rules were already in place. The worst position that City could have been in post any judgement was the status quo remained.
As we sit here now, City are in a better position than they were previously, where as the premier league are up shit creek. The premier league rules have also been labelled unlawful, unfair and unreasonable. City can now claim for damages.
The media can spin it however they like. The simple fact is that it City who will be going to bed with smiles on their faces tonight, while Richard Masters will be having nightmares.
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This is indisputable. How anyone can think otherwise is beyond comprehension.
 
bluwes said:
Nick Harris/ Magic Hat, howling at the moon tonight on Twitter. One of his claims is some city executives will have to fall on their swords for the failures in the APT case
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Just block his accounts.

He just wants attention so don't give it him.
 
Phil1 said:
You think we lost?
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Don’t think anyone’s said that?

In terms of the tribunal, we won some things, we also lost some things we’d have wanted to win. The other clubs in the PL will be feeling worse than we are right now though and the PL themselves too.

How big a win or loss it is, think we need to wait and see, no one can really know yet. Wouldn’t be surprised if it went back to tribunal again depending on what happens next.
 
Damocles said:
After taking the day to wait for people qualified to analyse this to analyse this, the idea that City won some major win and Stefan was downplaying it is clearly wrong.
Having read The Lawyer's take on it, I'm surprised he thinks it was even a "score draw" frankly.
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Eh ? Please explain.....
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meltonblue said:
Don’t think anyone’s said that?

In terms of the tribunal, we won some things, we also lost some things we’d have wanted to win. The other clubs in the PL will be feeling worse than we are right now though and the PL themselves too.

How big a win or loss it is, think we need to wait and see, no one can really know yet. Wouldn’t be surprised if it went back to tribunal again depending on what happens next.
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It’s insinuated in that post I replied to.
Seems there is a collective effort from some to downplay what we have achieved with this case.
 
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