I think I’ve read (presumably on here) that City’s sponsorship from Hays was reciprocal to some exclusivity they were given in an Abu Dhabi contract and Nexen may similarly arise from links via F1. Can’t personally vouch for the accuracy of that - but it seems feasible and that how business gets done. Given Mansour’s and Khaldoon’s position and status in Abu Dhabi, they will have considerable heft with AD Companies and also those doing serious business there - not to mention aspirants and new entrants hoping to grow business in AD. The cartel at the PL recognise that, but somehow stopping it is no easy task. The horse has bolted.
What are the pl voting on ?
To ignore the ruling and voting to keep the illegal rules and to ignore making loans payback with interest ?
Or new rules ?
Villa and Leicester perhaps?But can we get 7 votes? 1 City 2 Newcastle 3 Chelsea 4 Everton 5 Forest. Can't think of any others tbh.
So, seeing as the consensus changes by the minute, did we fucking win or not ?????
They need to recognise it's just business. When United were top dogs every sponsor was falling over themselves to get a bit of the action. Business changes, adapts, develops. Now it's our turn.
They don't want to discriminate (apparently), so make sure all sponsorships are around fair value, related, associated or third party. Do it properly. No need for APTs at all.
I have quickly read the whole judgement. I came away with the impression that the tribunal were over sympathetic to the PL in some areas such as the use of Nielsen alone, and their view that there was no bias. I think that is not the end of those matters and while the decisions of the tribunal are binding, there is nothing to stop City arguing about their application if the club is in dispute with the PL over future APTs. I am still not clear over how the PL decide that a transaction is Associated. It seems to me the PL take the view that Mansour is so influential that ALL AbuDhabi companies constitute an Association. Can anybody give an example of how Mansour has influenced a company of which he is not a director or officer?
HopefullyVilla and Leicester perhaps?
Do the cabal members think along those lines ?
Khaldoon is a slightly different proposition. He is a member of the law making body of AbuDhabi (The Executive Council) and a director of some of the main companies. I suppose in the end we have to accept that many of our AD transactions will be Associated, provide the rules are fair, legal and administered without bias. Remember this category was introduced specifically to trap us and is a lot wider than Related Transactions under IAS 24 which UEFA use and to which we are subjected.I think I’ve read (presumably on here) that City’s sponsorship from Hays was reciprocal to some exclusivity they were given in an Abu Dhabi contract and Nexen may similarly arise from links via F1. Can’t personally vouch for the accuracy of that - but it seems feasible and that how business gets done. Given Mansour’s and Khaldoon’s position and status in Abu Dhabi, they will have considerable heft with AD Companies and also those doing serious business there - not to mention aspirants and new entrants hoping to grow business in AD. The cartel at the PL recognise that, but somehow stopping it is no easy task. The horse has bolted.
So, seeing as the consensus changes by the minute, did we fucking win or not ?????
Without a straw poll it would seem that few posters don't think we won, IE Stefan and Damocles to name but two. But it looks like the majority on here think we did win something at least. What exactly is still to be determined.So, seeing as the consensus changes by the minute, did we fucking win or not ?????
That they’re owned by PIF.
I think they’ve decided not to have a vote just yet.What are the pl voting on ?
To ignore the ruling and voting to keep the illegal rules and to ignore making loans payback with interest ?
Or new rules ?
Then APT cannot be fair or administered without bias as it doesn't treat all clubs transactions the sameKhaldoon is a slightly different proposition. He is a member of the law making body of AbuDhabi (The Executive Council) and a director of some of the main companies. I suppose in the end we have to accept that many of our AD transactions will be Associated, provide the rules are fair, legal and administered without bias. Remember this category was introduced specifically to trap us and is a lot wider than Related Transactions under IAS 24 which UEFA use and to which we are subjected.
Palace - Didn't their owner recently state that he was a billionaire, but PSR didn't allow him to invest any of his fortune?But can we get 7 votes? 1 City 2 Newcastle 3 Chelsea 4 Everton 5 Forest. Can't think of any others tbh.
Hopefully, but I wouldn't bet on them Blue.Palace - Didn't their owner recently state that he was a billionaire, but PSR didn't allow him to invest any of his fortune?
It's hard because there were no rules of engagement to define a 'winner', so the more negative amongst us are defaulting to their more doom and gloomy instincts.Without a straw poll it would seem that few posters don't think we won, IE Stefan and Damocles to name but two. But it looks like the majority on here think we did win something at least. What exactly is still to be determined.
If we didn't win something, I guess the PL must be rewriting their Assoicated Party Rules and calling an emergency meeting for fun?
Without a straw poll it would seem that few posters don't think we won, IE Stefan and Damocles to name but two. But it looks like the majority on here think we did win something at least. What exactly is still to be determined.
If we didn't win something, I guess the PL must be rewriting their Assoicated Party Rules and calling an emergency meeting for fun?
Loads of people think we're state-owned. Theyre wrong, but I can understand their confusion, it is a bit of a fine line. But why are we so bothered about a club being state owned?
Is it because potentially they'll be richer than everyone else? If so, so what. Somebody always has to be the richest, and if we're wanting to limit ownership based on that, it's a really slippy slope to being as bad as the red shirts.
What would be the worst that would happen? Newcastle sign great players and the league is even more competitive?
Any piece of regulation regarding funding is one piece of regulation too many to me.
They would have to be included as they are by very definition and unquestionably an APT.Do they have a choice, by law they now have to be included going forward surely?