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City launch legal action against the Premier League | Club & PL reach settlement | Proceedings dropped (p1147)
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Lord Blue
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yeah, i could have as easily said.Rhetorical question?
So it feels intrinsically wrong that City's wealth is being treated so differently to Chelsea's.
Colin Bells Boots
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Amongst some of the more stupid comments. But in no way all of them.
It seems that he has an endless supply
M18CTID
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United fans used to always brag that they only spent what they earnt - a complete lie of course if you look at their figures from 1989 when they embarked on what was, at the time, an unprecedented spending spree - yet they’ve just posted a £100m plus loss in their latest set of accounts, whereas we’re now posting profits year after year, and winning shit loads of trophies to boot.When it was only 1 club that were threatening the "elite" clubs it was welcomed as a fairy story, still 4 CL places to scrap for, so the likes of Arsenal and Tottenham still had a chance of jumping on the gravy train, so the 4 became 5 , City turned up fucked up the chances for the likes of Arsenal and Spurs chances of regular CL football.
Newcastle have just fucked up their chances even further, but what has been shown is its all down to good club management , you only have to look at those complete fuckwits over in trafford that money doesn't mean everything , City are a self sustained club , which the stupid cunts who constantly slag the club off for cant see.
Relatively speaking, considering the revenues at their disposal, they’re literally the worst run club on the planet.
Kippaxpete
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Wilfried Saha was the first PL player not to 'take the knee' around three years ago, preferring, as he put it, to 'stand tall'. Whatever view you have on Saha, I felt at the time that he deserved real credit for refusing to be influenced by the widespread groupthink that sought to dictate how all players should behave. Apologies for deviating from the thread topic.This is precisely why I had and always will have a problem with the taking the knee campaign following George Floyd’s death. It’s the rank hypocrisy. Not just of The Premier League but in many organisations. I grew up in Oldham. I’ve seen all aspects of racism. Most people, white, black whatever are racist to some degree. I say that because I’m sure most of us wouldn’t be happy if Irish Travellers pitched up opposite your house. It’s called being honest.
Manchester City’s fan base is mostly made up of people from deprived areas of the North West that are multi cultural and these protein stains have zero right to lecture any of us on racism. I can’t recall names unfortunately but a few black players refused to take the knee because they could see the nonsense for what it was too.
Anyway, this will probably end up triggering idiots so I’ll delete it soon.
flb
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The **** Levy is a real snake in the grass, it probably annoys the **** that the phrase "red cartel" is becoming more prevalent and his jumped up fucking outfit doesn't get a mention, interesting wasn't it how Pep made a point of mentioning his name in that infamous interview when he named our detractors.Also, it’s possible that some of these other clubs who have been gullible enough to keep supporting the red shirt cartel clubs (and Spurs) might be having a re-think on their position.
Spurs are behind this as much as anyone, lurking in the background.
Bit like saying if you were born in America during slavery you knew what you were signing up for and had no right to question whether it was right to keep people as slavesDelaney says:
" There is simply exasperation at the manner that the club have gone against the very idea of the Premier League. Rivals are furious that City’s owners bought into the competition in the knowledge of what it was, aware of the rules"
But Miguel top tier football in England is controlled by the Premier League, if City wanted to participate, what choice did they have but to agree the Cartel rules? Which were then changed "by the majority' to be deliberately stacked against them.
Delaney continues;
"City are instead the first to take a case of this nature, and decide that they don’t need the rules to apply to them."
No Miguel, we have taken the case to prove that the rules as being applied against us were unlawful, unfair and unreasonable. And we proved that, irrefutably. A word you'll hopefully hear again very soon with regard to the 115 BS.
Lord Blue
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There were plenty of are Chelsea ruining football stories back in the early 2000s, especially when they won the league. But it was never a concerted campaign like the one we have been put under.
The reason... Mourinho was box office for the press and generated huge engagement numbers.
But the real reason was that the Champions League places were extended from 3 to 4 so everyone had a seat at the table.
The owners of Arsenal, United and Liverpool only care about that Champions League pot of gold and try everything possible (off the pitch) to avoid missing out.
Yes there were plenty of ruining football stories, but equally, as you say, there were plenty of positive stories. As you'd expect.
Surely Pep is box office too.
flb
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That's what happens mate when you have a sense of entitlement like the whole sorry outfit has. If they don't get CL football again come the end of the season its going to be very interesting how they jump.United fans used to always brag that they only spent what they earnt - a complete lie of course if you look at their figures from 1989 when they embarked on what was, at the time, an unprecedented spending spree - yet they’ve just posted a £100m plus loss in their latest set of accounts, whereas we’re now posting profits year after year, and winning shit loads of trophies to boot.
Relatively speaking, considering the revenues at their disposal, they’re literally the worst run club on the planet.
bobbyowenquiff
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There is overwhelming proof that the PL has been driven by bad faith. Leak after leak, public comments, multiple letters by PL Club Directors, multiple emails. Our enemies have left a huge paper trail. They have not been subtle about anything. In addition so much of the media coverage has been driven by hatred including some instances of overt racism. If this ever goes to a proper court of law we will wipe the floor with them.I wonder if our legal team, using the recently disclosed emails will punt the line that the PL’s case is driven by bad faith. If they establish that the PL will have a hard time making close run items stick.
Salford_Blue
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It was a brilliant atmosphere that day.
He is a paid shill, I'm convinced of it.Haha. Just read Delaney's latest piece. Apparently it's all due to clubs being state-owned. Not the PL putting in place, at the behest of certain clubs, unlawful rules to counter a perceived threat that hadn't at the time, or has now for that matter, materialised. And nothing to do with him just releasing a(nother) book about the evils of sportswashing, I don't suppose.
I am still amazed that the tribunal accepted there was a single reason for APT rules other than to stop Newcastle and City. The evidence put before them was weak imho (PL been discussing APTs since 2018 - why then I wonder? - but no formal discussions until post-Newcastle; UEFA's charges against City - which as we know were all thrown out; and the PL's case against City - which hasn't concluded so is no indication of any reason at all to do anything, if it is why not just deduct points now? Can't get my head around any of that. Especially as the PL, I don't think, can point to a single sponsorship that has subsequently been shown to be "evidently" above fmv. As I said, the tribunal needed fewer lawyers and more accountants :)
Anyway, Delaney is a funny little fella, isn't he?
For those that want to read it without giving him a click:
There are some crackers in it.
Many of his reports/blogs have xenophobic (at minimum) connotations.
Suppose he has to really, as this is what his imminent book is all about.
Can't be seen to be disagreeing with a novel you've written!
Colin Bells Boots
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United fans used to always brag that they only spent what they earnt - a complete lie of course if you look at their figures from 1989 when they embarked on what was, at the time, an unprecedented spending spree - yet they’ve just posted a £100m plus loss in their latest set of accounts, whereas we’re now posting profits year after year, and winning shit loads of trophies to boot.
Relatively speaking, considering the revenues at their disposal, they’re literally the worst run club on the planet.
It's been blindingly obvious for some time now, that securing income and using their brand to maximum effect that every other aspect of the running of the club is an absolute shambles.
Doubt that scruffy jim and pals will be able to change that for some time yet.
Salford_Blue
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As Martin Samuels said on that Youtube podcast, "Why is Profit included or necessary for PSR?"
What relevance does it have.
Sustainability, agreed.
What relevance does it have.
Sustainability, agreed.
Rehash of reporting from months ago. If City lose the 115 in any meaningful way, then it opens up the possibility of damages against us. The reason it’s cropped up again is that come the end of November (6 years since it was 1st started/known) they will be time barred from claiming (ironic), so the media is nudging them to ensure they get the claim in before they can’t.very vague one liner on sky this morning that clubs are preparing to claim damages from City - what’s that about?
It’s also prudent financial planning by them, if they do, hedging their bets. In the same way City reluctantly joined the Superleague, because it financially made sense for the club (putting aside anything else!)
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Gaz (FMwkdsoul)
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Wonder which club (s) would have been heroes for challenging this rule, if we hadn't been the face of it and took point.Haha. Just read Delaney's latest piece. Apparently it's all due to clubs being state-owned. Not the PL putting in place, at the behest of certain clubs, unlawful rules to counter a perceived threat that hadn't at the time, or has now for that matter, materialised. And nothing to do with him just releasing a(nother) book about the evils of sportswashing, I don't suppose.
I am still amazed that the tribunal accepted there was a single reason for APT rules other than to stop Newcastle and City. The evidence put before them was weak imho (PL been discussing APTs since 2018 - why then I wonder? - but no formal discussions until post-Newcastle; UEFA's charges against City - which as we know were all thrown out; and the PL's case against City - which hasn't concluded so is no indication of any reason at all to do anything, if it is why not just deduct points now? Can't get my head around any of that. Especially as the PL, I don't think, can point to a single sponsorship that has subsequently been shown to be "evidently" above fmv. As I said, the tribunal needed fewer lawyers and more accountants :)
Anyway, Delaney is a funny little fella, isn't he?
For those that want to read it without giving him a click:
There are some crackers in it.
MaineRoadMemories
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He is. You should see the positive newspaper stories City get from outside of the UK.Yes there were plenty of ruining football stories, but equally, as you say, there were plenty of positive stories. As you'd expect.
Surely Pep is box office too.
As mentioned, it's all about money. The older you get in life you start to realise everything in this modern world is driven by money and money alone.
There's only 4 Champion's League spots. There's 5 other teams excluding City that think they deserve that place on history alone.
They've got friends in the media to deliver a concerted campaign against the club and got the Premier League to charge us with false accounting just so they can have 1 of those Champions League places back.
The thing is as a concept sportswashing has never worked, nobody has ever changed their opinion based on the idea that a country spends money on sport and its ludicrous to think that it has, football really does hold itself in far higher esteem than it deserves.He is a paid shill, I'm convinced of it.
Many of his reports/blogs have xenophobic (at minimum) connotations.
Suppose he has to really, as this is what his imminent book is all about.
Can't be seen to be disagreeing with a novel you've written!
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Gaz (FMwkdsoul)
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and football fans tend to get the county or origin wrong when insulting ownership.. we' move country every insultThe thing is as a concept sportswashing has never worked, nobody has ever changed their opinion based on the idea that a country spends money on sport and its ludicrous to think that it has, football really does hold itself in far higher esteem than it deserves.
Thanks - assumed it would be in respect of the 115 rather than the APT caseRehash of reporting from months ago. If City lose the 115 in any meaningful way, then it opens up the possibility of damages against us. The reason it’s cropped up again is that come the end of November (6 years since it was 1st started/known) they will be time barred from claiming (ironic), so the media is nudging them to ensure they get the claim in before they can’t.
It’s also prudent financial planning by them, if they do, hedging their bets. In the same way City reluctantly joined the Superleague, because it financially made sense for the club (putting aside anything else!)
flb
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They didn't bank on Pep staying as long as he has, the media thought that he'd walk away after 5 years with the political pressure that the club is under, that has gone ten fold ever since it became apparent he was going to totally destroy United and Liverpool's chances of ever gaining a real foothold on the league anytime soon, all by spending less money than them as well.He is. You should see the positive newspaper stories City get from outside of the UK.
As mentioned, it's all about money. The older you get in life you start to realise everything in this modern world is driven by money and money alone.
There's only 4 Champion's League spots. There's 5 other teams excluding City that think they deserve that place on history alone.
They've got friends in the media to deliver a concerted campaign against the club and got the Premier League to charge us with false accounting just so they can have 1 of those Champions League places back.