Benjamin Mendy | Joins Pogon Szczecin (p92)

[Centurions]

because that's what his contract will say. If it says something different I'd be amazed

So his contract says "if you get locked up entirely due to your own stupidity, we'll still pay, you plus any bonuses(!!!) you're not owed"?

OK...

 

[BerkshireBlue]

So his contract says "if you get locked up entirely due to your own stupidity, we'll still pay, you plus any bonuses(!!!) you're not owed"?

OK...

We stopped paying him as soon as he was charged. So do you want to define "own stupidity" as that is not an argument you'll win unless you are more specific

 

[Kippax Street 1880]

He did nothing illegal and it was the club's decision to stop paying him. What would your view if this happened to you?

He broke his bail conditions by having a house party so got remanded. City paid him up until then.

 

[Uncle Wally One Ball]

We stopped paying him as soon as he was charged. So do you want to define "own stupidity" as that is not an argument you'll win unless you are more specific

I dont know if thats right, are you sure about that? I think he was paid after he was charged and on bail. Stopped being paid when he breached and got remanded

 

[Blue Mist]

Not guilty isn't innocent.

Not innocent means a person is completely cleared of the accusation, often implying they didn’t commit the act. "Not guilty" means there's not enough evidence to convict them. The former asserts their innocence, the latter highlights the prosecution's failure to prove guilt beyond a reasonable doubt. It's a subtle but crucial legal difference.

There us no such thing as Not innocent!
There are only 2 outcomes (ignoring a hung jury.)
Innocent or guilty.
Mendy was found Not Guilty.

There is no subtle but crucial difference.
If someone wants to believe someone is guilty despite what a court of law states, fine, but in the eyes of the law, Mendy did not commit rape.

 

[Barcon]

He got himself locked up. He can have fuck all.

 

[Blue Mist]

He wasn't available for selection because the police fucked up with charging him. Its should now be their responsibility to cover lost wages not Citys.

The police didn't charge him.
The CPS charged him but I agree they fucked up. They were desperate to increase detections related to rape (see also the widening of the term rape)
This was a politically motivated charge. It should never have gone to court.

 

[balotelli's back pocket]

He's got a fucking cheek, this ****.

The trial revealed a pattern of totally unprofessional behaviour which impacted his fitness and ability to contribute to the team.

He took the piss out of this club for 4 years.

He broke bail conditions which meant even if we wanted to play him, we couldn't. So I find it perfectly moral for the club to suspend him without pay - it's the least he deserves, regardless of his 'guilt' or 'innocence'.

I'm pleasantly surprised we haven't settled - I don't want this **** to get another penny from us.

 

[BerkshireBlue]

I dont know if thats right, are you sure about that? I think he was paid after he was charged and on bail. Stopped being paid when he breached and got remanded

yep that's right City haven't paid him since September 2021. He didn't actually get charged for breaching his bail, it was dropped in court, so I'm not even sure where this news came from

 

[balotelli's back pocket]

Now he's trying to throw his teammates under the bus for a cheque.

Scumbag.

 

[bumbleblue]

Now he's trying to throw his teammates under the bus for a cheque.

Scumbag.

What’s the cheeky fucker said now?

 

[houraisen]

 

[The Light Was Yellow Sir]

Not guilty isn't innocent.

Not innocent means a person is completely cleared of the accusation, often implying they didn’t commit the act. "Not guilty" means there's not enough evidence to convict them. The former asserts their innocence, the latter highlights the prosecution's failure to prove guilt beyond a reasonable doubt. It's a subtle but crucial legal difference.

You need to have another think about this, I’d respectfully suggest. Also, ‘Not Innocent?
By have another think I mean: Imagine City are found ‘not guilty’ of most or indeed all the 115, presumably you’ll be the first to post saying we might not be guilty but we’re certainly not innocent? Because that’s exactly how opposing fans and their media shills will portray it.
Now I have no time whatsoever for Mendy, I wish the club had never bought him and, in my view, he was certainly ‘not innocent’ but, under the system we have, he was tried, found not guilty and, consequently, is innocent in the eyes of the law. It might be far from perfect but it’s what we’ve got and I’d rather have that than any alternative thus far devised.

 

[balotelli's back pocket]

What’s the cheeky fucker said now?

That several of his teammates including Walker were at his parties, breaking covid rules, sleeping around, drinking, but he's been 'singled out' because of his arrest.

Conveniently forgetting that we continued to pay him and play him after his first two arrests, and only suspended him when he was charged.

Others may have been doing similar things, but they weren't doing them every single fucking day. And they were contributing on the pitch, unlike this lazy **** who put more effort into being a degenerate than he did into staying fit.

 

[bluemc]

Regardless of whether this is true or not, Mendy was the only person under strict bail conditions, and broke those conditions. Therefore was subsequently arrested and detained, and not available for selection.

I'm not going down the rabbit hole of footballers and their morality but ultimately, the others were all available for selection and therefore there was no reason for the club not to pay them.

 

[kaz7]

He is a grade A dog , dont pay him a fucking penny

The conviction rate for rape is so low i have no trust that he innocent

 

[balotelli's back pocket]

Nobody else was remanded in custody for breaching their bail conditions you stupid fucker! The club stood by him (wrongly IMO) after two initial arrests. They didn't 'single you out', if anything you got special treatment because they felt sorry for you.

 

[kaz7]

The way he is trying to throw our players under the bus is proof what a **** he is , he can get fucked and he can take walker with him

 

[BerkshireBlue]

Regardless of whether this is true or not, Mendy was the only person under strict bail conditions, and broke those conditions. Therefore was subsequently arrested and detained, and not available for selection.

I'm not going down the rabbit hole of footballers and their morality but ultimately, the others were all available for selection and therefore there was no reason for the club not to pay them.

incorrect he has never been charged with breaching bail conditions

 

[BerkshireBlue]

so let's get facts right here;

1) Mendy hasn't been paid since September 2021
2) Mendy had a contract with City
3) Mendy didn't breach bail conditions
4) Mendy was innocent
5) Mendy was crap

I think #5 is swaying a lot of people to think different about 1 to 4. If you remove #5 or put De Bruyne in Mendy's place instead, would that make you think differently.
The only thing that could save City is what the contracts say. If it says something like "for services delivered" or something like that where they can prove he's more like a contract person rather than an employee then great. Otherwise I can't see City winning this one.