President Trump

[Gareth Barry Conlon]

 

[Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese]

He doesn’t have any policy plans.

No, but he's made plenty of big promises that are thin on detail.

 

[The blue phantom]

Yep. It’s literally the only thing he cares about and the one he has a go at the most is less worse on that topic than the one he totally ignores.

I've already stated Trump will be worse regarding the slaughter of Palistinians, But that still doesn't give Harris a free pass on what the Democrat’s have done. Thing about the American posters is they have all said the Middle East conflict will have no bearing on folk voting for Harris, Which is clearly bollocks.

 

[SWP's back]

I've already stated Trump will be worse regarding the slaughter of Palistinians, But that still doesn't give Harris a free pass on what the Democrat’s have done. Thing about the American posters is they have all said the Middle East conflict will have no bearing on folk voting for Harris, Which is clearly bollocks.

We’ll see. Trump’s helping Harris by telling the electorate he speaks nearly daily to Netanyahu and that “luckily he listens to me rather than Biden”.

If people want to abstain from voting and get Trump then they’ll deserve it.

Israel/Palestine is so far down the list for the majority of US voters and the Israel lobby is so strong that it’s hugely unlikely any US president would be in a position to rein them in, certainly so close to an election, but Harris would likely be more likely to in the first year of a four year mandate. Trump however would actively encourage them.

 

[The blue phantom]

We’ll see. Trump’s helping Harris by telling the electorate he speaks nearly daily to Netanyahu and that “luckily he listens to me rather than Biden”.

If people want to abstain from voting and get Trump then they’ll deserve it.

Israel/Palestine is so far down the list for the majority of US voters and the Israel lobby is so strong that it’s hugely unlikely any US president would be in a position to rein them in, certainly so close to an election, but Harris would likely be more likely to in the first year of a four year mandate. Trump however would actively encourage them.

I agree it's far down on priorities for most Americans but in the swing states especially Michigan where it has the biggest population of Arabs in the Country they are simply going to stay at home. If it ends with Trump getting the job so be it. I think it's the thought that Harris has simply not said a word on the conflict which has pissed them off.

I guess we'll find out soon enough.

Here in Michigan, we know the Democrats have failed on Gaza – and they’ll pay dearly for it | Mona Mawari

My community is a hub of Arab and Muslim America. Kamala Harris’s stance on the Middle East has left us hurt and angry, says community organiser Mona Mawari

www.theguardian.com

 

[moomba]

I'm not sure about the Hitler thing. It sort of denigrates the memory those that suffered at the hands of Hitler really. I mean we have all lived through four years of trump as potus, and while I wouldn't claim it was great it wasn't really Germany 1941-45, or even a more modest 37-41.
It all seems a little like an attempt to 'play the man rather than the ball' and these things can often backfire. Ultimately the democrat campaign team know more than I do, so we shall see.

It's a sign of the times that Trump can he exposed as admiring Hitler and wishing for generals more like Hitlers and the other side is doing the wrong thing by talking about it.

Maybe more will come out in time but there are plenty of examples where Trump was stopped doing things he wanted to do (shooting at BLM protesters) by his staff. Very few of them are prepared to work for him ajy more and I don't think it's unreasonable to believe that they'll be replaced by loyalists, less likely to put the brakes on his tendencies.

 

[The blue phantom]

I agree it's far down on priorities for most Americans but in the swing states especially Michigan where it has the biggest population of Arabs in the Country they are simply going to stay at home. If it ends with Trump getting the job so be it. I think it's the thought that Harris has simply not said a word on the conflict which has pissed them off.

I guess we'll find out soon enough.

Here in Michigan, we know the Democrats have failed on Gaza – and they’ll pay dearly for it | Mona Mawari

My community is a hub of Arab and Muslim America. Kamala Harris’s stance on the Middle East has left us hurt and angry, says community organiser Mona Mawari

www.theguardian.com

Mehdi Hasaan has gone after the Democrats and Harris too on the conflicts, Big-time, It's why he lost his job on MSNBC.

 

[moomba]

I think it's the thought that Harris has simply not said a word on the conflict which has pissed them off.

That's not true though is it.

 

[The blue phantom]

That's not true though is it.

It seems the Muslims in those swing states disagree. Hey I want Harris to win as obviously Trump is going to be an even bigger **** and supply even more Bombs/Missiles than the Democrat’s have. But if those folk are adamant the Democrat’s can go and fuck themselves and totally refuse to give Harris their Vote, Then that's their choice. As SWP said then they deserve Trump.

 

[Vic]

You've never seen a group of people praying for someone before?

"Dear God, may this sinful man find the gift of penitence, and amend his life."

But just in case, let's compare his words with what Jesus said about false prophets.

 

[threespires]

Still don't get why anyone would go on an internet forum to defend and excuse a sex offender and suggest they'd want him in high office unless they actually thought his kind of behaviour was acceptable. A few proper wrong 'uns on this thread.

 

[moomba]

It seems the Muslims in those swing states disagree. Hey I want Harris to win as obviously Trump is going to be an even bigger **** and supply even more Bombs/Missiles than the Democrat’s have. But if those folk are adamant the Democrat’s can go and fuck themselves and totally refuse to give Harris their Vote, Then that's their choice. As SWP said then they deserve Trump.

Whether they disagree or not it's simply not true to say she hasn't mentioned the middle east.

If they want to protest against Harris even if it means that they get someone less sympathetic to their cause that's up to them.

 

[grunge]

Whether they disagree or not it's simply not true to say she hasn't mentioned the middle east.

If they want to protest against Harris even if it means that they get someone less sympathetic to their cause that's up to them.

yeah the logic is totally off. I wont vote for Harris because she's not doing enough to help so I'll vote for the guy who's 100% in on extra support for Israel.

 

[Mr Kobayashi]

You've never seen a group of people praying for someone before?

Looks more like they are praying to Trumpus Grabbus Pussus the God King.

 

[The blue phantom]

yeah the logic is totally off. I wont vote for Harris because she's not doing enough to help so I'll vote for the guy who's 100% in on extra support for Israel.

They've seen the Democrats send Tens of Billions of Dollars to Israel which in turn has Slaughtered Tens of thousands of Children. Every line the Israeli's have crossed and Biden has half condemned he's carried on with the supply of weopens. The Arab/Muslim vote just currently see the Democrat’s complete capitulation to Netanyahu. We'll see soon enough I guess if it cost the Dems.

 

[BlueMoonAcrossThePond]

Looks more like they are praying to Trumpus Grabbus Pussus the God King.

Any relationship?

 

[moomba]

They've seen the Democrats send Tens of Billions of Dollars to Israel which in turn has Slaughtered Tens of thousands of Children. Every line the Israeli's have crossed and Biden has half condemned he's carried on with the supply of weopens. The Arab/Muslim vote just currently see the Democrat’s complete capitulation to Netanyahu. We'll see soon enough I guess if it cost the Dems.

If it costs the Democrats, they'll have to hope the replacement represents their interests better.

Trumps rhetoric suggests that's a long shot.

Would be like a protest vote against Miguel Delaney just to elect Nick Harris.

 

[grunge]

They've seen the Democrats send Tens of Billions of Dollars to Israel which in turn has Slaughtered Tens of thousands of Children. Every line the Israeli's have crossed and Biden has half condemned he's carried on with the supply of weopens. The Arab/Muslim vote just currently see the Democrat’s complete capitulation to Netanyahu. We'll see soon enough I guess if it cost the Dems.

That cant be denied. But not voting Harris and voting Trump instead is nonsensical as it would make things worse not better.

Not voting at all fair enough, voting a 3rd party is again fair enough but flipping to Trump is insanity for this subject.

 

[Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese]

They've seen the Democrats send Tens of Billions of Dollars to Israel which in turn has Slaughtered Tens of thousands of Children. Every line the Israeli's have crossed and Biden has half condemned he's carried on with the supply of weopens. The Arab/Muslim vote just currently see the Democrat’s complete capitulation to Netanyahu. We'll see soon enough I guess if it cost the Dems.

I'm pretty certain this will be worse under trump and sadly due to the nature of us politics the democrats will have to sit on their hands until after the election lest the Israel lobby torpedo their campaign.
What concerns me is that netanyahu may view the next couple of weeks as the last remaining window in which to do his worst, and start a wider regional conflict which the US will be forced to back.

 

[BlueMoonAcrossThePond]

I'm pretty certain this will be worse under trump and sadly due to the nature of us politics the democrats will have to sit on their hands until after the election lest the Israel lobby torpedo their campaign.
What concerns me is that netanyahu may view the next couple of weeks as the last remaining window in which to do his worst, and start a wider regional conflict which the US will be forced to back.

Netanyahu is going to do whatever seems most likely for him to remain in power and avoid pending criminal cases against him. I'm not sure that any US president will be able to much restrain him.

I do agree that things would likely get worse under Trump as Trump likes everything that Netanyahu is now doing and would likely encourage him - if not actively support him - in continuance of much the same - especially if it involves attacks on Iran.