Assisted dying

[Millwallawayveteran1988]

This is not an either or situation , assisted dying and working really hard to get good pallative care in every postcode can be done at the same time

I would be surprised if there is enough money to bring hospices into the nhs at the moment, i think starmer could make it his legacy if he did it though, the fact they are funded mostly by donations is a fucking scandeal

It is. Scandalous.

 

[metalblue]

Hope so, I said before my Dad unable to breathe struggling for breath at 73yrs after cardiac arrest.
That lasted for three months and the oxygen was rationed ONE canister had to last until the next delivery. My Dad would not have taken the AD route anyway.

I know of people who got a bed in macmillan and had a peaceful death at home because of those nurses, but care is so patchy and not every one has that option, if anything comes out of this I hope we can make better palliative care as well as AD for everyone.

It is patchy mate. Thats the problem with it. Sorry for what your dad and you all went through.

 

[metalblue]

This is not an either or situation , assisted dying and working really hard to get good pallative care in every postcode can be done at the same time

I would be surprised if there is enough money to bring hospices into the nhs at the moment, i think starmer could make it his legacy if he did it though, the fact they are funded mostly by donations is a fucking scandeal

I hope so and they don’t see this as a way to not prioritise it.

It’s chronically underfunded.

 

[metalblue]

Now the rubicon of the sanctity of life has been crossed can we expect the death penalty to be debated next?

 

[threespires]

Well done those 330 MPs, shame on the 275 shysters.

So given the 275 came from all parts of the political spectrum with a variety of different reasons for voting against, what's the definition of shyster in this instance?

 

[mosssideblue]

Now the rubicon of the sanctity of life has been crossed can we expect the death penalty to be debated next?

Bring it on. I’d vote for it

 

[Kirkstall Blue]

I hope so and they don’t see this as a way to not prioritise it.

It’s chronically underfunded.

Chronic underfunding in the NHS and people kicking off at the rise in NI. and I moan about the WFP but anyone who spent time in hospital can testify those nurses and doctors are absolute saints.

AD should be available for those people who can’t be helped with medication, I imagine it’s a small number because most people will die sat watching TV. or in their sleep even cancer patients can die of a sudden heart attack.

 

[flook]

Now the rubicon of the sanctity of life has been crossed can we expect the death penalty to be debated next?

No it's completely different, and from your previous posts you're smart enough to know that.

 

[metalblue]

Bring it on. I’d vote for it

It was more of a post to think how other pressure groups might leverage this for their own causes. If we consider the courts will once again have the authority to direct someone’s death (rather than direct through withdrawal of “life maintaining” equipment which has been their limit of power for decades now) it’s not a huge leap to once again direct it for particularly heinous crimes.

I’d not be surprised it proponents of it raise it off the back of this vote.

 

[metalblue]

Chronic underfunding in the NHS and people kicking off at the rise in NI. and I moan about the WFP but anyone who spent time in hospital can testify those nurses and doctors are absolute saints.

AD should be available for those people who can’t be helped with medication, I imagine it’s a small number because most people will die sat watching TV. or in their sleep even cancer patients can die of a sudden heart attack.

The reality is parts of the NHS are over funded and other parts underfunded.

Regarding this bill there is a cohort of people that suffer from dementia that are going to not have access to this - and that’s probably the largest beneficiaries of such a law. That’s why I’d rather they spent time and done it properly. Heck why stop with this 6 months prognosis at all? I’d argue once you give a populace the right to die why should you then deny the majority of that populace access to that right? It’s not equitable.

 

[metalblue]

No it's completely different, and from your previous posts you're smart enough to know that.

You give me far too much credit mate ;)

 

[mosssideblue]

You give me far too much credit mate ;)

I concur :)

 

[Elbow beards]

I never knew some states in America have Legalised it as well. You learn something new every day.

 

[remember arthur mann]

Let's not kid ourselves, people are bumped off, albeit gently. This is all about money and taking the pressure off palliative care.

 

[kaz7]

Let's not kid ourselves, people are bumped off, albeit gently. This is all about money and taking the pressure off palliative care.

Bollocks

 

[N1985]

Now the rubicon of the sanctity of life has been crossed can we expect the death penalty to be debated next?

I fucking hope so. That **** who killed his daughter and ran off to Pakistan like the absolute shithouse he is should be the first in the queue.

 

[urban genie]

Glad it's past from a personal position, I want the right to die when I want not kept alive against my will.

 

[Mr Blue Moon]

I’ve seen Logan’s Run.
I know how this ends…

 

[metalblue]

I concur :)

Ya cheeky fucker. Thought you didn’t want to fall out with a fellow blue ;)

 

[Gaylord du Bois]

Won't be long before there's a steady stream of applicants from the Transfer Forum.