PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

[Sir peace frog]

They are about twenty years out of date in that article with the standard of proof in criminal trials. The express test for the last couple of decades has been being ‘sure’ of someone’s guilt. It’s supposed to amount to the same thing as beyond reasonable doubt, but I don’t wholly agree. It’s definitely in the same ball park, but the previous test contains a qualification that the current one does not. So I think they are slightly different. Otherwise, why change it?

In any event, that article is wrong as to what the stated burden is.

i did jury service in january, the judge before we went in to discuss the case said something about dont use the "beyond reasonable doubt", use SURE

 

[slbsn]

Not sure where you got this from, but I think it's news to everyone else on here. Can you find any source for it?

It is completely made up.

 

[Damocles]

Not sure where you got this from, but I think it's news to everyone else on here. Can you find any source for it?

 

[jaiguruKun]

If it's of any interest, City filed its appeal at the CAS in June 2019 and from what I can see, the hearing started in Feb 2020 and the decision was released in July 2020

Edit...
And IIRC, the CAS hearing took three days and the award was 93 pages
The PL hearing was four weeks, so God knows how many pages the award will be

The UEFA decision wasn't released until Feb '20 and we appealed against this to CAS. The decision was overturned 5 months later.

Due to being concerned by all the leaks to the media, we filed an interlocutory appeal against the competence of the UEFA chamber in 2019 which CAS rejected.

 

[Kippaxpete]

i did jury service in january, the judge before we went in to discuss the case said something about dont use the "beyond reasonable doubt", use SURE

I'm not sure how many times it's necessary to reiterate this on here but the burden of proof on the part of the PL in this matter is that which applies in all civil cases; that being 'the balance of probability'. With all due respect, reference to criminal cases in the context of this thread is of no value.

 

[dickie davies]

The UEFA decision wasn't released until Feb '20 and we appealed against this to CAS. The decision was overturned 5 months later.

Due to being concerned by all the leaks to the media, we filed an interlocutory appeal against the competence of the UEFA chamber in 2019 which CAS rejected.

I stand corrected
The appeal against the Adjudicatory chamber (the ban) was made in Feb
The hearing was 8/9/10 of June and the decision released 13th July
So only a month from hearing to media release

https://www.tas-cas.org/fileadmin/user_upload/CAS_Media_Release_6785_Decision.pdf

 

[halfcenturyup]

It is completely made up.

I was being tactful .....

 

[Fordyboy46]

I'd expect only our owners and directors etc know the outcome now, nobody else will have a scooby doo

 

[burning blue soul]

Hundreds of pages 300-500?

Obviously, they'll whack a TL;DR blurb at the end for us great unwashed?

 

[christopp]

I’ve just had a shit. I could see the vibrant red tomato skins from the grilled tomatoes in my Pooh.

Just thought I’d share.

Cheers mate

 

[IrishBlueSince92]

Never a problem sharing something in good faith mate. No disrespect either but seems unlikely as that means we're guilty.

At some point we might have to consider that we could be guilty in all this.
Or else we could be in for a shock

 

[christopp]

I'd expect only our owners and directors etc know the outcome now, nobody else will have a scooby doo

That was my response also lol

 

[christopp]

So we have been committing fraud for 10 years than




Find that very hard to believe

My feeling is we have probably done something but I don’t think it will quite be as bad as the rest of the footballing world would like it to be

 

[The blue phantom]

Sounds like uncle Kev has been telling porkies again.

 

[christopp]

Just what they hope to gain is the bit that is worrying.

Attention seeking most likely but pathetic really.

People will speculate, it’s quite normal

 

[BamberBridgeBlue]

At some point we might have to consider that we could be guilty in all this.
Or else we could be in for a shock

No, still not having it. If the PL had us on a slam dunk, we’d all know about it.

 

[Colin Bells Boots]

People will speculate, it’s quite normal

But unfounded nonsense is not really helpful is it ?

 

[citizen_maine]

People will speculate, it’s quite normal

So 'apparently' it's speculation now?

 

[calumdown]

and a 25 point dedication in march

you are roy castle and i claim my...
errm,
i don't know what i claim.
but.
what i do know is you are full of shit.

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

So we have 2 points - not sure we can get another 38.

In what season would we need another 38?