If the rot continues what happens ?

Indeed.

This is a ‘down’ season. A season where the squad has taken itself as far as it can and we need a rebuild of it and a refresh.

Pep will get this right and next season he’ll have the team firing again. He’s more than earnt the right to excuse a season like this and the right to be the one who rebuilds.
My thoughts exactly. In fact my advice is relax see what happens, after years of stressing about keep needing to win and hoping this team or that drops some points. That’s where I’m at now, and in many ways really looking forward to see how we rebuild the squad and what Pep does in the next 2 seasons to re energise and set us up for the next few years.
 
Not sure mate.

To be perfectly honest I didn't think much of the Nunes signing or Kovacic. You could see KdB was broken and had done his best work for us. Although he got the monicker FFS, Mahrez done a great job for us and hasn't been replaced. I'm not going to talk about Palmer or some others we have let go but you could see this season was going to be tough.

We seem to have lost ground with the replacements we've brought in. But I'm sure we'll fix it.
Similar thinking to me in certain ways. Obviously we knew things don't last for ever, but I think a lot of us were quite pragmatic in our expectations. So many factors have come into play, big unforeseen ones being a big issue (Rodri). For me personally I think it's been the nature of this slump that has alarmed so many fans, the cliff edge drop off. Putting injuries aside there's basic mistakes all over the pitch and the entire team is playing poorly. Anyway we're better placed than most looking forward. Cheers.
 
Indeed.

This is a ‘down’ season. A season where the squad has taken itself as far as it can and we need a rebuild of it and a refresh.

Pep will get this right and next season he’ll have the team firing again. He’s more than earnt the right to excuse a season like this and the right to be the one who rebuilds.
It’s certainly a down season but we should attempt to part address it now and not wait until next season to then do another season of transition etc… I really hope and expect that the powers that be are accelerating their planning to January and we look at the Academy for the cup competitions to see who has the potential to make the step up.

If we are going to keep playing the comically high line we really need fast athletes in this team because at the minute our midfield and defenders are turning like oil tankers once we lose possession. We all must be sick to death of watching us concede the same goal over and over. I’m at a loss as to why we are keeping on at it when we dont have the personnel to do it.
 
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My thoughts exactly. In fact my advice is relax see what happens, after years of stressing about keep needing to win and hoping this team or that drops some points. That’s where I’m at now, and in many ways really looking forward to see how we rebuild the squad and what Pep does in the next 2 seasons to re energise and set us up for the next few years.
And it might get even worse before it gets better this season. So those already moaning, prepare yourselves!

But a decent midfield signing in January, players who’ve come back from injury getting themselves fitter, players getting through this slump and getting back into form, and there’s no reason why we can’t mount a challenge to finish fourth.

Besides, there are more important things going on this season than the team, its performances and results.

We could win every game from Boxing Day until the end of the season, finish 2nd, and then have 40 points docked from the PL case or be expelled from the PL.
The #1 most important thing this season is beating that case. If we do, it’ll breathe fresh life into the club. It’ll be bigger than the Centurions, Fourmidables, treble and four-in-a-row achievements combined for this club. It will be as big as the takeover in 2008.
 
Lots of similarities between this season and Pep's first, at least on the pitch. Square pegs in round holes essentially. The reason off it may be different but hopefully the cure is the same and Pep is the guy to lead the charge.

New blood, renewed appetite to win, but a stuttering season to endure first. I'd take top four now.
 
And what are you going to do ? Go and support the next successful club ?

I don't need to do anything - it's not sustainable and the environment will become so toxic that change is going to be inevitable.

The idea that you can ride out the storm is fanciful - Pep isn't surviving if our next 12 games also have 1 win.
 
We can not go on like this. This will not end with a season out of the top 4. We are in the biggest tail spin I've ever seen from any professional sports team in my life.
 
the input from our winger is mindblowing this season. Grealish, Bernardo, Doku, Savinho, the combined output from them is less than what Saka or Salah doing alone. how can Salah at age 33 outperform them so much?

they create fuck all, score even less.
 
the input from our winger is mindblowing this season. Grealish, Bernardo, Doku, Savinho, the combined output from them is less than what Saka or Salah doing alone. how can Salah at age 33 outperform them so much?

they create fuck all, score even less.

That's not a fair comparison Saka and particularly Salah has the freedom to run at defenders. Our wingers are up against a lower block with no room to work.
 
Lots of similarities between this season and Pep's first, at least on the pitch. Square pegs in round holes essentially. The reason off it may be different but hopefully the cure is the same and Pep is the guy to lead the charge.

New blood, renewed appetite to win, but a stuttering season to endure first. I'd take top four now.
We were never this bad in peps 1st season. We finished 3rd that season. This season your looking at bottom half
 
Lots of similarities between this season and Pep's first, at least on the pitch. Square pegs in round holes essentially. The reason off it may be different but hopefully the cure is the same and Pep is the guy to lead the charge.

New blood, renewed appetite to win, but a stuttering season to endure first. I'd take top four now.
No way on earth we get top four. Bournemouth, Brighton, Newcastle and Tottenham will all finish above us. Add the 5 already above us. I think 10th is about right.
But to even achieve that we need to start picking up the odd win here and there which at the moment we don't look like doing.

People are saying this is the worst we've been under Pep but I'd say you'd have to go back a lot further to find a City side playing as badly as this.

People seem to be refusing to believe what they are seeing. Yesterday was an abysmal effort. Villa didn't play particularly well as they've been on a poor run themselves but they were better all over the pitch.They seemed to want it more.
 
Lots of similarities between this season and Pep's first, at least on the pitch. Square pegs in round holes essentially. The reason off it may be different but hopefully the cure is the same and Pep is the guy to lead the charge.

New blood, renewed appetite to win, but a stuttering season to endure first. I'd take top four now.

I think we are much worse now than during Pep’s first season. Like many others, I expected a drop off. In fact, I expected it last year rather than this. But the level of our decline has been astonishing.

A lot of people are downplaying our current form and ignoring just how bad we’ve been over the last two months. We’ve conceded 2 or more goals in 11 of the previous 12 games.

Our play is far too predictable and we look utterly toothless. Gvardiol being and second highest scorer and Nunes our second highest assister sums us up.

It’s not like we don’t have the players. We still have the deadliest striker in Europe with the likes of Foden, Grealish, Doku and Savinho supporting. There is no doubt that injuries, fatigue and general under performance from individuals has played a role.

But when so many players are out of form, we keep conceding the same goal time after time and don’t create much, the tactical set up has to be questioned.
 
No way on earth we get top four. Bournemouth, Brighton, Newcastle and Tottenham will all finish above us. Add the 5 already above us. I think 10th is about right.
But to even achieve that we need to start picking up the odd win here and there which at the moment we don't look like doing.

People are saying this is the worst we've been under Pep but I'd say you'd have to go back a lot further to find a City side playing as badly as this.

People seem to be refusing to believe what they are seeing. Yesterday was an abysmal effort. Villa didn't play particularly well as they've been on a poor run themselves but they were better all over the pitch.They seemed to want it more.
People are sleepwalking - expecting it suddenly to turn around. BUT, if this goes on which it may then we could be in the bottom half
 
We can not go on like this. This will not end with a season out of the top 4. We are in the biggest tail spin I've ever seen from any professional sports team in my life.

We've got four games now to at least stabilise. Everton, Leicester, West Ham and Ipswich. If we don't come out of that little run with at least two wins then we're going to be in serious trouble, cos we've then got a horrible seven game run against Chelsea, Arsenal, Newcastle, Liverpool, Spurs, Forest and Brighton.
The main problem we've got, besides the chronic injury list, is that we have a squad of players, who, courtesy of age and an absence of pace and muscle, are completely ill suited to just about every tactical gambit there is. They can't press, they aren't able to resist when others press them (I've lost count of how many times Gundogan and Lewis in particular have been robbed of possession), and they don't have the legs to either counterattack or get back and cover when we've lost the ball. We've also got calamitous defenders operating up on the halfway line, and who, irrespective of the Rodri sized hole directly in front of them, are time and again undone by simple balls downfield.
Worse still, is that every team on the planet is aware of our collective deficiencies and knows exactly how to play against us. Eleven men behind the ball, nice and narrow, waiting patiently as we painfully pass the ball sideways and backwards at a snail's pace and then, at the first sign of a misplaced pass, breaking downfield like the Jamaican 4 x 100 Olympic relay team and scoring with their first shot. If I'm being honest, I don't expect Everton, Leicester, Ipswich or West Ham to deviate from that script one iota, which makes it very difficult to see where our next win is coming from.....and if Pep can't sort it - and at the moment he doesn't appear to have a clue - then we really are in a dark place
 
No way on earth we get top four. Bournemouth, Brighton, Newcastle and Tottenham will all finish above us. Add the 5 already above us. I think 10th is about right.
But to even achieve that we need to start picking up the odd win here and there which at the moment we don't look like doing.

People are saying this is the worst we've been under Pep but I'd say you'd have to go back a lot further to find a City side playing as badly as this.

People seem to be refusing to believe what they are seeing. Yesterday was an abysmal effort. Villa didn't play particularly well as they've been on a poor run themselves but they were better all over the pitch.They seemed to want it more.
Mmm, a damning post but unfortunately quite accurate. The aim now is top 4 but much more of this carry on and it starts to become a tall order. There is, as you say, people in denial. I think there has been a bit of a change though in some peoples views lately in relation to our predicament. There's not much of the "1 or 2 players is all we need" statements around anymore.
 
We've got four games now to at least stabilise. Everton, Leicester, West Ham and Ipswich. If we don't come out of that little run with at least two wins then we're going to be in serious trouble, cos we've then got a horrible seven game run against Chelsea, Arsenal, Newcastle, Liverpool, Spurs, Forest and Brighton.
The main problem we've got, besides the chronic injury list, is that we have a squad of players, who, courtesy of age and an absence of pace and muscle, are completely ill suited to just about every tactical gambit there is. They can't press, they aren't able to resist when others press them (I've lost count of how many times Gundogan and Lewis in particular have been robbed of possession), and they don't have the legs to either counterattack or get back and cover when we've lost the ball. We've also got calamitous defenders operating up on the halfway line, who, irrespective of the Rodri sized hole directly in front of them, are time and again undone by simple balls downfield.
Worse still, is that every team on the planet is aware of our collective deficiencies and knows exactly how to play against us. Eleven men behind the ball, nice and narrow, waiting patiently as we painfully pass the ball sideways and backwards at a snail's pace and then, at the first sign of a misplaced pass, breaking downfield like the Jamaican 4 x 100 Olympic relay team and scoring with their first shot. If I'm being honest, I don't expect Everton, Leicester, Ipswich or West Ham to deviate from that script one iota, which makes it very difficult to see where our next win is coming from.....and if Pep can't sort it - and at the moment he doesn't appear to have a clue - then we really are in a dark place

I can't see us winning another game all season with the current players and set up. We don't create anything, it's so easy for the other team, a few direct passes and they are straight in.

Nobody has any confidence to beat a man or try a risky pass. Its all backwards and sideways at a glacial tempo. Everyone is fucked we can't even get 11 fit players on the pitch at the same time.

Every other game I watch there's a kid who used to play for us tearing it up while we watch the old guard struggle through the last years of their mega contract. Pep looks like he's ready for the asylum. We have to suffer the absolute embarrassment of looking at the pure joke of a human Walker flail around like a goldfish out of water whilst defaming our captains armband.

Haaland and Rodri must be looking at the new deals and thinking yeah fuck that.

That's even before I start to entertain the possibility we might have to consider the 115 case not going completely in our favour.

We need serious investment immediately in January to have any chance of rescuing anything from this season. And yes they are going to have to be panic buys, because we're in a situation which should be making everyone involved with this club panic!
 
Lots of similarities between this season and Pep's first, at least on the pitch. Square pegs in round holes essentially. The reason off it may be different but hopefully the cure is the same and Pep is the guy to lead the charge.

New blood, renewed appetite to win, but a stuttering season to endure first. I'd take top four now.

Peps first season was nothing like this. Even the loss at Goodison we battered them and were the better team. Bravo was a horror show and the defence was old and struggling with the demands of a Pep system but we were great going forward and you could clearly see the roots of something great developing. It's why everyone gave it time to work because it was obvious good things would come of it.
 

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