PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

Beaker said:
Spunking circa £150m on Phillips, Doku and Nunes, whilst at the same time getting a hard on for making money on young players, many of whom we could really use right now is nothing to do with the charges, but rank bad decision making.
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Yeah, well those are some of the other reasons that I spoke about innit.
 
wolviedinho said:
Which is why city have been left somewhat in the shit. He would need to head over to the club and talk to pep. Not a phone call at the weekend when he has time.

This maybe why the squad has been left to rot.Txiki and pep need another voice that is not their own.

Grew too big and too fast with the CFG and now the blue goose is cooked and no fucker knows what to do.
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I am sure there is a very effective chain of communication Guardiola/ Begiristain > Soriano > Khaldoon > Mansour. I doubt anything is happening in the wider sense that they haven't all agreed to. That doesn't mean mistakes can't be made, though, and it seems increasingly clear some have been made. It happens.

I don't think the squad has been left to rot, either. A bit melodramatic.

And, finally, in time I think you will see the owner and the board will know exactly what to do.

I'm glass half full, you know :)
 
Damocles said:
He's doing the exact job that he's employed to do. He chairs the board. It's not his fault that others think he does more than that. Soriano is the CEO and does all the things that you seemingly want Khaldoon to do.
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Soriano only cares about the CFG.

Anything that happens at the club stops with khaldoon. For whatever reason he seemingly has dropped the ball on the squad.

He clearly has no time to focus on city so needs to appoint someone who can. Leaving it to pep and txiki has warped their thinking.

A strong leader would have seen the squad collapse was inevitable.
 
wolviedinho said:
Soriano only cares about the CFG.

Anything that happens at the club stops with khaldoon. For whatever reason he seemingly has dropped the ball on the squad.

He clearly has no time to focus on city so needs to appoint someone who can. Leaving it to pep and txiki has warped their thinking.

A strong leader would have seen the squad collapse was inevitable.
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Soriano literally works every single day at City. He doesn't run the CFG. Everybody at the executive level is doing the same job now as they were doing when we won a Treble or 4 in a row. Khaldoon doesn't run City, has never ran City, and is not expected, employed or even allowed to run City. Nothing has changed, you're making up reasons to be mad at these people.
 
halfcenturyup said:
I am sure there is a very effective chain of communication Guardiola/ Begiristain > Soriano > Khaldoon > Mansour. I doubt anything is happening in the wider sense that they haven't all agreed to. That doesn't mean mistakes can't be made, though, and it seems increasingly clear some have been made. It happens.

I don't think the squad has been left to rot, either. A bit melodramatic.

And, finally, in time I think you will see the owner and the board will know exactly what to do.

I'm glass half full, you know :)
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It’s what the glass is half full of that worries me

8-)
 
wolviedinho said:
Soriano only cares about the CFG.

Anything that happens at the club stops with khaldoon. For whatever reason he seemingly has dropped the ball on the squad.

He clearly has no time to focus on city so needs to appoint someone who can. Leaving it to pep and txiki has warped their thinking.

A strong leader would have seen the squad collapse was inevitable.
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Despite what I wrote earlier about setting budgets, I don't think you can blame Khaldoon for the "squad collapse". Nor Soriano for that matter, and I don't even like him that much. Mansour and the board seem to have decided not too invest too much for a couple of seasons and to generate income from the academy (and the fans, of course). I have no idea why that would be but I am pretty sure it would have been for sound business reasons.

The fact that it has gone tits up for a while couldn't really have been foreseen despite what anyone says. There were some risks, yes, but the pressure put on a small squad in the last two months has been almost beyond belief.

Glass half full again :)
 
Damocles said:
He's doing the exact job that he's employed to do. He chairs the board. It's not his fault that others think he does more than that. Soriano is the CEO and does all the things that you seemingly want Khaldoon to do.
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Why not let BM posters have a direct line to Khaldoon, seeing as so many fully understand all the issues and can provide the cures quite esasily ?

Soon be sorted .
 
Damocles said:
Soriano literally works every single day at City. He doesn't run the CFG. Everybody at the executive level is doing the same job now as they were doing when we won a Treble or 4 in a row. Khaldoon doesn't run City, has never ran City, and is not expected, employed or even allowed to run City. Nothing has changed, you're making up reasons to be mad at these people.
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I’m not mad at them at all. The opposite in fact. You can’t tell me due to past success that the top brass hasn’t taken their eye off the ball when it comes to city.

People get complacent all the time no what what sector they work in.

The group that includeds Khaldoon, Soriano, Txiki, Pep and anyone else decided this squad was good enough to win the league again and obtain top 4.

Clearly they have gotten this one wrong. Last season we barely got over the line. Form towards the end nosedived with a cup loss to the rags.

This is not an attack but a fact the decisions made have been wrong.

As fans we make decisions on emotions and I would say nearly everyone of us was delighted with the squad going into the season. However, we are fans and only see glimpses of what is going on.

Those who do make the decision made a hash this time around. We got to comfortable, too much patting ourselves on the back and didn’t do what was needed last summer.

The club is run fantastic in some aspects. Recruitment has been poor now for a few seasons. Collectively they have all failed to keep us top.
 
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Damocles said:
Soriano literally works every single day at City. He doesn't run the CFG. Everybody at the executive level is doing the same job now as they were doing when we won a Treble or 4 in a row. Khaldoon doesn't run City, has never ran City, and is not expected, employed or even allowed to run City. Nothing has changed, you're making up reasons to be mad at these people.
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Soriano is CEO of CFG, not CEO of Manchester City. He isn't running City when he's in New York, in continental Europe, or anywhere else CFG has a club.
 
Prestwich_Blue said:
Soriano is CEO of CFG, not CEO of Manchester City. He isn't running City when he's in New York, in continental Europe, or anywhere else CFG has a club.
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Commenting on Manchester City retaining its position as the Premier League’s most valuable football club brand, Roel de Vries, Chief Operating Officer at City Football Group, said:
So is the COO a higher position than that of a CEO Colin or the other way around ?
 
wolviedinho said:
I’m not mad at them at all. The opposite in fact. You can’t tell me due to past success that the top brass hasn’t taken their eye off the ball when it comes to city.

People get complacent all the time no what what sector they work in.

The group that includeds Khaldoon, Soriano, Txiki, Pep and anyone else decided this squad was good enough to win the league again and obtain top 4.

Clearly they have gotten this one wrong. Last season we barely got over the line. Form towards the end nosedived with a cup loss to the rags.

This is not an attack but a fact the decisions made have been wrong.

As fans we make decisions on emotions and I would say nearly everyone of us were delighted with the squad going into the season. However, we are fans and only see glimpses of what is going on.

Those who do make the decision made a hash this time around. We got to comfortable, too much patting ourselves on the back and didn’t do what was needed last summer.

The club is run fantastic in some aspects. Recruitment has been poor now for a few seasons. Collectively they have all failed to keep us top.
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I feel the Summer after the treble was where the real bad decisions were made.

Last Summer I could see why we kept our powder dry, we should have kept one of THB or Doyle in hindsight though the long term injuries to Rodri, Bobb, Kevin and the complete drop off from Phil and Bernardo couldn't have been predicted in fairness.
 
halfcenturyup said:
Despite what I wrote earlier about setting budgets, I don't think you can blame Khaldoon for the "squad collapse". Nor Soriano for that matter, and I don't even like him that much. Mansour and the board seem to have decided not too invest too much for a couple of seasons and to generate income from the academy (and the fans, of course). I have no idea why that would be but I am pretty sure it would have been for sound business reasons.

The fact that it has gone tits up for a while couldn't really have been foreseen despite what anyone says. There were some risks, yes, but the pressure put on a small squad in the last two months has been almost beyond belief.

Glass half full again :)
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We have had one of the best recruitment records of any club for a decade but, probably for a variety of reasons, we have made some mistakes in the last 18 months. Some people are paid very well to make critical decisons on whether or not to sell some of our promising young players. We have had a very bad run in this area of the club but I am sure we will put this right going forward. The injuries came at the worst possible time for us.
 
bobbyowenquiff said:
We have had one of the best recruitment records of any club for a decade but, probably for a variety of reasons, we have made some mistakes in the last 18 months. Some people are paid very well to make critical decisons on whether or not to sell some of our promising young players. We have had a very bad run in this area of the club but I am sure we will put this right going forward. The injuries came at the worst possible time for us.
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The club has been crowing about how it’s run and rightly so. Winning everything, while maintaining a healthy bottom line is absolutely fantastic. Khaldoon has every right to shout from the rooftops and did on a few occasions.

He did say something about other clubs failures and blaming city not so long ago.

Think it’s ok now to say we have failed to rebuild the squad. Apparently we plan in depth reports on players and forward plan 3/5 years in the future so why are we now scrambling around looking players and then when we do find them baulk at the fee?

Something dosent add up. We either plan or we lack a plan. It can’t be both. Recently it feels like we hobble along and react instead of being pro active.

Having a world class club off the pitch but not on it is spurs job and Arsenal to some extent hell even the rags can claim that title.

Unfortunately football matches are won on the pitch and that comes down to recruitment. For some bizzare reason we are missing out on top talent and that is where the failure starts and ends.

Why don’t we buy Top tier talent anymore?
I understand timing is everything and can forgive the palmers of this world leaving. It is what it is but I want to know why we are basement shopping all the time now?

I still maintain collectively as a group they have failed. The line is thin and on this occasion we are in the wrong side of it.
 
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wolviedinho said:
I’m not mad at them at all. The opposite in fact. You can’t tell me due to past success that the top brass hasn’t taken their eye off the ball when it comes to city.

People get complacent all the time no what what sector they work in.

The group that includeds Khaldoon, Soriano, Txiki, Pep and anyone else decided this squad was good enough to win the league again and obtain top 4.

Clearly they have gotten this one wrong. Last season we barely got over the line. Form towards the end nosedived with a cup loss to the rags.

This is not an attack but a fact the decisions made have been wrong.

As fans we make decisions on emotions and I would say nearly everyone of us were delighted with the squad going into the season. However, we are fans and only see glimpses of what is going on.

Those who do make the decision made a hash this time around. We got to comfortable, too much patting ourselves on the back and didn’t do what was needed last summer.

The club is run fantastic in some aspects. Recruitment has been poor now for a few seasons. Collectively they have all failed to keep us top.
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The players 'rot' started with the piss up before the cup final....complacency in plain and costly sight.

Then the Euro's finally exhausted players who'd played 4/5 seasons of intense 'cup finals' without proper r & r.

At the start of the season they were physically & mentally exhausted and when the first wobbly domino fell (Rodders) the rest fell one by one through unprecedented injury or illness.

The rest is now known as we enter a period of re fit, re build & re fresh which should encompass the entire football dept.

Our era of supremacy is paused, no stone must be unturned, no decision shirked, and no position unchallenged if we are to be a force again.

New DoF.
New Players.
New Stand.
New...........

REFIT...REBUILD...REFRESH....
EVERYWHERE !!
 
wolviedinho said:
The club has been crowing about how it’s run and rightly so. Winning everything, while maintaining a healthy bottom line is absolutely fantastic. Khaldoon has every right to shout from the rooftops and did on a few occasions.

He did say something about other clubs failures and blaming city not so long ago.

Think it’s ok now to say we have failed to rebuild the squad. Apparently we plan in depth reports on players and forward plan 3/5 years in the future so why are we now scrambling around looking players and then when we do find them baulk at the fee?

Something dosent add up. We either plan or we lack a plan. It can’t be both. Recently it feels like we hobble along and react instead of being pro active.

Having a world class club off the pitch but not on it is spurs job and Arsenal to some extent hell even the rags can claim that title.

Unfortunately football matches are won on the pitch and that comes down to recruitment. For some bizzare reasons we are missing out on top talent and that is where the failure starts and ends.

Why don’t we buy Top tier talent anymore?
I understand timing is everything and can forgive the palmers of this world leaving. It is what it is but I want to know why we are basement shopping all the time now?

I still maintain collectively as a group they have failed. The line is thin and on this occasion we are in the wrong side of it.
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115 politics ??
 
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