Are 12 American owners a serious threat to our game ?

[VOOMER]

Sounds like something a woke hipster say. You could get a job as a writer at the Gaurdian by suggesting Americans are bad for football and the likes of Bin Salman are its saviours.

Well done. Have a free latte, ill make a donation to Shameema Begum in your name

You are "frothing at the mouth" and I claim my £5

 

[p.taker]

 

[born2bblu]

Sounds like something a woke hipster say. You could get a job as a writer at the Gaurdian by suggesting Americans are bad for football and the likes of Bin Salman are its saviours.

Well done. Have a free latte, ill make a donation to Shameema Begum in your name

City were also part of the ESL dont forget. As for generalizing American owners, ive said it before the Kroenke's have turned into fine owners since the took ownership. Not every American owner are like Man United's.

Look what happened to Chelsea with Roman having to force the sale. Politically exposed and politically sensitive persons carry a big risk. Middle East is a very volatile region, you just dont know whose going to get the Gaddaffi treatment next

So “Bin Kroenke” spent one year or two years, and now he is a fine owner? Weak memory, being dumb or plain racist?

 

[cheekybids]

A massive fallacy that is rooted in the belief that Arabs are better owners than Americans. Its just not true and the belief Newcastle will automatically be successful because they are owned by Arabs is incorrect.

Most of your success has to do with Pep, who like he did at Barcelona with really good players, raised standards very high.

Do you honestly think The American owned clubs think they couldn't beat you if Kompany is manager?

Amazing, we’ve been told it’s all down to our dirty oil money. So maybe it’s down to Sheik Mansour, Khaldoon, Txixi, Feran, Omar & then Pep.

Now tell me a US club that’s like that.

 

[cheekybids]

Yeah. I think a cap on the money flowing into football would be good for the game.

Your the one who confused 'investment' in football with what is just player wages and agent fees. Your the one who thinks Saudi Arabia is 'investing in football'.

When transfer fees come from a new market then it’s an investment in football, if you don’t get that then there is no hope.

 

[BrianW]

Anyone who doesn't like modern football and all the money in it needs to blame:

1. Those clubs who insisted on keeping home gate money for themselves instead of sharing it.
2. Those clubs who grabbed the lion's share of TV money, leaving the rest with scraps.
3. Those clubs who pushed for and got the Premier League, a monument for unabated greed.

By making top-level football much more profitable, they put out (in effect) a big sign that said 'Capitalists, come get me. You can make big bucks here.'

Once that genie was out of the bottle going back was impossible, short of a total collapse.

It's worth remembering that 'traditional' football clubs were run on buttons. They were typically owned by local 'businessmen' more interested in the prestige of sitting in the Directors' Box than in making money. Indeed, for many years it was forbidden for Directors to be paid at all. Nottingham Forest was, for many years, an actual club, with members and a Committee, not even a Limited Company.

That is no more coming back than drainpipe trousers, trolleybuses and peacetime conscription. It is gone forever.

 

[mattcity5]

When transfer fees come from a new market then it’s an investment in football, if you don’t get that then there is no hope.

Absolutely this.

In as simple a way as possible, clubs gets shitloads of money these days via sponsorship, TV and prize money. If football is for the fans at all, money that comes in needs to be spent on new players to try and move up the league, or even to win it. If that's not why teams buy players, then whats the point?

 

[Koniec]

Anyone who doesn't like modern football and all the money in it needs to blame:

1. Those clubs who insisted on keeping home gate money for themselves instead of sharing it.
2. Those clubs who grabbed the lion's share of TV money, leaving the rest with scraps.
3. Those clubs who pushed for and got the Premier League, a monument for unabated greed.

By making top-level football much more profitable, they put out (in effect) a big sign that said 'Capitalists, come get me. You can make big bucks here.'

Once that genie was out of the bottle going back was impossible, short of a total collapse.

It's worth remembering that 'traditional' football clubs were run on buttons. They were typically owned by local 'businessmen' more interested in the prestige of sitting in the Directors' Box than in making money. Indeed, for many years it was forbidden for Directors to be paid at all. Nottingham Forest was, for many years, an actual club, with members and a Committee, not even a Limited Company.

That is no more coming back than drainpipe trousers, trolleybuses and peacetime conscription. It is gone forever.

No 1 & 2 are where scottish fitba fell apart into a duopoly. The irony here is that American sports are very fair and almost socialist in their set up, the worst teams get 1st dibs in best players thus making sure that there is a healthy competition.

 

[bluemanchester]

A massive fallacy that is rooted in the belief that Arabs are better owners than Americans. Its just not true and the belief Newcastle will automatically be successful because they are owned by Arabs is incorrect.

Most of your success has to do with Pep, who like he did at Barcelona with really good players, raised standards very high.

Do you honestly think The American owned clubs think they couldn't beat you if Kompany is manager?

You are correct saying most of our success is down to Pep, the world's best football coach. But do you think for one minute Pep would have come to City if there was not a first class management team behind the scenes running City. Our owners had a project, invest, plan, recruit and a long term vision of how they saw the future. Up till now they have left English football in their wake. Quietly going about their business whilst the red tops have looked to disrupt their progress and like the bullies the red tops are they are still stuck in the local playground whilst City have gone into the big wide world and reaped the benefits of their courage and vision.

 

[MCFCTrick]

Anyone who doesn't like modern football and all the money in it needs to blame:

1. Those clubs who insisted on keeping home gate money for themselves instead of sharing it.
2. Those clubs who grabbed the lion's share of TV money, leaving the rest with scraps.
3. Those clubs who pushed for and got the Premier League, a monument for unabated greed.

By making top-level football much more profitable, they put out (in effect) a big sign that said 'Capitalists, come get me. You can make big bucks here.'

Once that genie was out of the bottle going back was impossible, short of a total collapse.

It's worth remembering that 'traditional' football clubs were run on buttons. They were typically owned by local 'businessmen' more interested in the prestige of sitting in the Directors' Box than in making money. Indeed, for many years it was forbidden for Directors to be paid at all. Nottingham Forest was, for many years, an actual club, with members and a Committee, not even a Limited Company.

That is no more coming back than drainpipe trousers, trolleybuses and peacetime conscription. It is gone forever.

This ^^^^^

 

[dario2739]

Anyone who doesn't like modern football and all the money in it needs to blame:

1. Those clubs who insisted on keeping home gate money for themselves instead of sharing it.
2. Those clubs who grabbed the lion's share of TV money, leaving the rest with scraps.
3. Those clubs who pushed for and got the Premier League, a monument for unabated greed.

By making top-level football much more profitable, they put out (in effect) a big sign that said 'Capitalists, come get me. You can make big bucks here.'

Once that genie was out of the bottle going back was impossible, short of a total collapse.

It's worth remembering that 'traditional' football clubs were run on buttons. They were typically owned by local 'businessmen' more interested in the prestige of sitting in the Directors' Box than in making money. Indeed, for many years it was forbidden for Directors to be paid at all. Nottingham Forest was, for many years, an actual club, with members and a Committee, not even a Limited Company.

That is no more coming back than drainpipe trousers, trolleybuses and peacetime conscription. It is gone forever.

Bang on... and one of those clubs covered in points 1 to 3 was.... Arsenal!

 

[law74]

Maybe the yanks should trademark the name 'Woolwich Arsenal' and make loads of money, although that didn't workout to well for scrawny neck down the M62.

Woolwich Nomad's would be a better term, as without Henry Norris bankrolling them and moving them into Spurs territory they would have folded.
And I'm still to find a Gooner who can tell me their top scorer in their wonderful promotion season

 

[Deleted member 77198]

Sounds like something a woke hipster say. You could get a job as a writer at the Gaurdian by suggesting Americans are bad for football and the likes of Bin Salman are its saviours.

Well done. Have a free latte, ill make a donation to Shameema Begum in your name

Are you having a laugh? The fucking Guardian is the most anti-Emirati rag in the pressworld.

 

[Dodge]

With the confirmed purchase of Everton by The Friedkin Group, the Premier League is now 50% owned (or majority owned) by our friends across the pond.

With Sheffield Utd announcing new American ownership today, the Championship top three are all American owned.

In May, it's highly likely that two non-American owned clubs will be relegated from the Premier League and if they are replaced by any two of Blades, Lids or Burnley, they have the magic number of 12 EPL clubs American owned.

Game changing for English football and happening in plain sight.

Hell yeah.

 

[Blue Mist]

This is why I want a govt appointed regulator.
No other reason as they are shit at overseeing everything else.
I just hope that when the yanks start with
a) no relegation
b) salary caps
c) agreement to have x number of games in yankland the regulator steps in.

Fear the worst and don't celebrate a compromise.

 

[Cravenvirgin]

But it’s only Arab owners who are ruining the PL?????

 

[Dodge]

This is why I want a govt appointed regulator.
No other reason as they are shit at overseeing everything else.
I just hope that when the yanks start with
a) no relegation
b) salary caps
c) agreement to have x number of games in yankland the regulator steps in.

Fear the worst and don't celebrate a compromise.

It's coming mate, straight through the front door.

 

[dennishasdoneit]

With the confirmed purchase of Everton by The Friedkin Group, the Premier League is now 50% owned (or majority owned) by our friends across the pond.

With Sheffield Utd announcing new American ownership today, the Championship top three are all American owned.

In May, it's highly likely that two non-American owned clubs will be relegated from the Premier League and if they are replaced by any two of Blades, Lids or Burnley, they have the magic number of 12 EPL clubs American owned.

Game changing for English football and happening in plain sight.

Hell yeah.

Said this year's ago,part of my Football will eat itself mantra.; )

 

[KS55]

This is why I want a govt appointed regulator.
No other reason as they are shit at overseeing everything else.
I just hope that when the yanks start with
a) no relegation
b) salary caps
c) agreement to have x number of games in yankland the regulator steps in.

Fear the worst and don't celebrate a compromise.

All those non American owned clubs that voted against an independent regulator are sleep walking to disaster. Don’t they have any sense of danger?

 

[melrose40yarder]

They were all warned.The minute there is no jeopardy and games abroad my 50 yrs will be done with it.