PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

[1961_vintage]

I'm at a point where even if we were to be cleared 100% of all the charges would I want to be playing in a league that has tried to destroy us full stop. It's a monumental disgrace from a league perspective as well as the relentless smear campaign by both the mainstream media, social media "pundits" and oppo supporters choking on their own bitter hate.

It is hard to imagine the Premier League existing in 5 to 10 years from now. The European Super League is already up-and-running via the new format of the Champions League. And I think that the orchestrators behind this campaign of City's destruction will have anticipated both outcomes - ie our achievements and standing in the game tarnished (that job has been done regardless of the outcome of the charges) and the Premier League completely discredited due to the way the whole shit-show has been handled. Hard to find a winner in amongst all of that lot.

 

[1961_vintage]

Where is the same level of attention being placed on the Prem's methods? Their motives? Their missteps? I'm just so disgusted as a supporter...

And every other Club who, I'm sure if subjected to the same levels of scrutiny, would be far, far from considered "clean".

 

[JewelZee]

That came from the heart. I doth my cap to you!

Thanks. It's just become too much. I just said some things I know we're all feeling. How can the Prem carry this whole thing out without at least being publicly challenged on issues of motive, timing, aims? The disingenuous way this been treated by everyone outside of us is insane...

 

[Matt Diablo]

How can anyone think the way the Prem have gone about this is anything but hostile? IMHO, it's been excessive, relentless, and quite indicative of the way one would deal with an enemy. Putting my City bias aside I find it to be distasteful and disingenuous the way the league has decided to deal with one of its marquee members. In a normal business world this makes absolute zero sense being that City are a successful partner in the PL.

I'm not saying we should be above any rules but this seems to go way beyond that. The Prem have basically walked this to the very edge of the cliff, to a point of no return and to what end? The destruction of a member club that has grown into a global brand and played a large role in the league's own popularity. A collapse of ongoing business alliances with the UAE that extend well beyond football. Or the Prem being made to look like incompetent, petty, buffoons acting at the whim of a small core of owners concerned only with their own self-serving interests.

With all due respect to Stefan and the others here trying to make some sense of this I find it to be a circus. An absolute shit show of dubious merit that's brought the league to an absolutely no-win situation. Does anyone really believe that if the Prem are able to cook us it's a "win" for the league? Anyone with an ounce of business acumen knows this would be a self-inflicted, short sighted mortal wound in the long term.

I'm at a point where even if we were to be cleared 100% of all the charges would I want to be playing in a league that has tried to destroy us full stop. It's a monumental disgrace from a league perspective as well as the relentless smear campaign by both the mainstream media, social media "pundits" and oppo supporters choking on their own bitter hate.

Hell yeah comrade.

I can't wait for this tireless shit to be put finally on the table. Will feel like signing the real Ronaldo at his peak . . .

 

[JewelZee]

And every other Club who, I'm sure if subjected to the same levels of scrutiny, would be far, far from considered "clean".

100%...

 

[JewelZee]

Hell yeah comrade.

I can't wait for this tireless shit to be put finally on the table. Will feel like signing the real Ronaldo at his peak . . .

Tireless is a great word for it. It's like while we're going through an era of rarely seen dominance our own league is telling the World don't believe what you see.
WTF?

 

[JewelZee]

But, but, but according to "Carra" bringing in some of the best players ever seen and Pep has added nothing of any real value to football in this country and it would only hurt us if we were expelled not the PL itself. The fact that the PL's most successful commercial period coincides with ours is just a complete coincidence.

That's why Carra needs a good kicking...

 

[JewelZee]

The PL seem unaware of City being held in high esteem in other countries. Some of the G14 clubs obviously are not too pleased with our success but the foreign press, for example, do not follow the anti City agenda. CFG were welcomed with open arms when taking over a Brazilian team and the compliments there were about City. Despite long opposition in the US to the Arab connection the proposed development in NY has some support there.
The same is true concerning ‘Associated’ clubs, the prem don’t seem to understand that we compete in a global market and our deals should be compared not just to our own country.

Exactly...

 

[bobbyowenquiff]

I'm sure a whole bunch of Blues feel like us. Sometimes I'm bewildered at how much the hatred for us keeps the Prem from being plastered with scrutiny over this entire shit show. Where is the same level of attention being placed on the Prem's methods? Their motives? Their missteps? I'm just so disgusted as a supporter...

The PL leadership has treated our club with contempt. The persistent leaking of disparaging information to the media, unfairly scrutinising small (totally legal) payments to a former Manager from 15 years ago (before FFP was even introduced), allowing eight of its members to launch a letter campaign demanding we should be expelled from European football even before the result of our appeal was heard, splitting up the "charges" in a unique and unfair way to try and destroy our public reputation, willfully obstructing our lawful attempts to attract new sponsor deals (see the APT case). This is as malicious as it gets in a business environment.

 

[Brendan110_0]

We will they won’t, the PL probably will say we tried fuck it to the red cartel, if we lost then obviously we would appeal.

Leicester had to appeal, we will too.

 

[JewelZee]

Excellent post, sums up my feelings too.

Thanks mate. Add in the consideration for us as supporters is less than zero...

 

[Gordyola]

If you can teach me how to just insert the relevant part(quote) instead of whole post it would be appreciated;-)

Highlight the relevant bit then the menu will pop up that will include Quote hit that

Go to a new post and select insert quotes you will then see the quote(s) you can chose the one or more you like the insert to complete

 

[JewelZee]

It is hard to imagine the Premier League existing in 5 to 10 years from now. The European Super League is already up-and-running via the new format of the Champions League. And I think that the orchestrators behind this campaign of City's destruction will have anticipated both outcomes - ie our achievements and standing in the game tarnished (that job has been done regardless of the outcome of the charges) and the Premier League completely discredited due to the way the whole shit-show has been handled. Hard to find a winner in amongst all of that lot.

Hard to see anything else that would make sense to these treacherous pricks. Take out City AND the Prem in one fell swoop with the Prem unwittingly and ignorantly abetting in their own demise...

 

[Gordyola]

Leicester had to appeal, we will too.

The appeals criteria is somewhat limited mainly have the panel misinterpret evidence or law

 

[JewelZee]

The PL leadership has treated our club with contempt. The persistent leaking of disparaging information to the media, unfairly scrutinising small (totally legal) payments to a former Manager from 15 years ago (before FFP was even introduced), allowing eight of its members to launch a letter campaign demanding we should be expelled from European football even before the result of our appeal was heard, splitting up the "charges" in a unique and unfair way to try and destroy our public reputation, willfully obstructing our lawful attempts to attract new sponsor deals (see the APT case). This is as malicious as it gets in a business environment.

And the level of public scrutiny or outrage for this very public display of bad faith is virtually nonexistent.

 

[Paladin]

No.

I don't like management consultants :) Second only to lawyers in my hate list .....

I was going to go on a rant but I decided to leave it at that. Let's just say I don't rate him or how he is running the club, he has the easiest CEO job in football and wouldn't be here if it wasn't for Guardiola. All the problems the club is facing and has faced happened under his watch. Ah, I am ranting. Enough.

I heard, probably on here, that it was Khaldoon's account that was hacked. If so, it's surprising you are laying our troubles at Soriano's door.

 

[FanchesterCity]

The PL is essentially the member clubs themselves, albeit operated as a separate company (owned by the member clubs).
In theory each club has an equal say, but there are most likely some clubs with more political and financial clout than others when it comes to exerting influence. That influence must be nigh on impossible to police as much of it may occur away from the PL itself and behind closed doors of specific cliques.
We ourselves got into such a situation with the European Super League, where it was clear we had collaborated with other clubs in a clandestine manner.

The PL probably falls into three groups. The established big boys (Liverpool, United, Arsenal, Spuds...), those aspiring to compete with the big boys on and off the pitch (City, Villa, Chelsea,Newcastle, Everton) and those who probably don't anticipate competing financially but just want to be able compete on the pitch... (most other clubs).

That list is very subjective, but in the right ballpark on most fans eyes. Many will now have City and Chelsea down as part of the big boys they choose to despise.

The established elite really don't want competition.
Those that feel they can't compete financially don't want the gap to widen and would prefer curbs to the spending.
It's only those with a realistic prospect of trying to repeat City and Chelsea's fortunes that are likely to side with us. So we're probably outnumbered 2-1 at the very least.
Can we really be surprised therefore that the PL acts as it does?

 

[slbsn]

How can anyone think the way the Prem have gone about this is anything but hostile? IMHO, it's been excessive, relentless, and quite indicative of the way one would deal with an enemy. Putting my City bias aside I find it to be distasteful and disingenuous the way the league has decided to deal with one of its marquee members. In a normal business world this makes absolute zero sense being that City are a successful partner in the PL.

I'm not saying we should be above any rules but this seems to go way beyond that. The Prem have basically walked this to the very edge of the cliff, to a point of no return and to what end? The destruction of a member club that has grown into a global brand and played a large role in the league's own popularity. A collapse of ongoing business alliances with the UAE that extend well beyond football. Or the Prem being made to look like incompetent, petty, buffoons acting at the whim of a small core of owners concerned only with their own self-serving interests.

With all due respect to Stefan and the others here trying to make some sense of this I find it to be a circus. An absolute shit show of dubious merit that's brought the league to an absolutely no-win situation. Does anyone really believe that if the Prem are able to cook us it's a "win" for the league? Anyone with an ounce of business acumen knows this would be a self-inflicted, short sighted mortal wound in the long term.

I'm at a point where even if we were to be cleared 100% of all the charges would I want to be playing in a league that has tried to destroy us full stop. It's a monumental disgrace from a league perspective as well as the relentless smear campaign by both the mainstream media, social media "pundits" and oppo supporters choking on their own bitter hate.

I think the PL has tried to allow a typically hostile investigation and then piece of serious litigation to sit side by side with the day to day business of dealing with a shareholder and competition member. The PLs office has images of City’s success all over - pictures of the title wins, Haaland, the trophy with blue ribbons. All this sits side by side with the PL trying to wear its regulators hat. Every investigation is hostile as is every piece of litigation.

The reality is that if the PL win, their hostility is justified. If not, it will be seen as a circus. Again this is like most Serious Fraud Office and other regulatory cases.

 

[Protein Junkie]

The PL leadership has treated our club with contempt. The persistent leaking of disparaging information to the media, unfairly scrutinising small (totally legal) payments to a former Manager from 15 years ago (before FFP was even introduced), allowing eight of its members to launch a letter campaign demanding we should be expelled from European football even before the result of our appeal was heard, splitting up the "charges" in a unique and unfair way to try and destroy our public reputation, willfully obstructing our lawful attempts to attract new sponsor deals (see the APT case). This is as malicious as it gets in a business environment.

Brilliant.
To précis it all - perfect examples of acting in bad faith.

 

[KS55]

The PL is essentially the member clubs themselves, albeit operated as a separate company (owned by the member clubs).
In theory each club has an equal say, but there are most likely some clubs with more political and financial clout than others when it comes to exerting influence. That influence must be nigh on impossible to police as much of it may occur away from the PL itself and behind closed doors of specific cliques.
We ourselves got into such a situation with the European Super League, where it was clear we had collaborated with other clubs in a clandestine manner.

The PL probably falls into three groups. The established big boys (Liverpool, United, Arsenal, Spuds...), those aspiring to compete with the big boys on and off the pitch (City, Villa, Chelsea,Newcastle, Everton) and those who probably don't anticipate competing financially but just want to be able compete on the pitch... (most other clubs).

That list is very subjective, but in the right ballpark on most fans eyes. Many will now have City and Chelsea down as part of the big boys they choose to despise.

The established elite really don't want competition.
Those that feel they can't compete financially don't want the gap to widen and would prefer curbs to the spending.
It's only those with a realistic prospect of trying to repeat City and Chelsea's fortunes that are likely to side with us. So we're probably outnumbered 2-1 at the very least.
Can we really be surprised therefore that the PL acts as it does?

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