President Trump

ChicagoBlue said:
Trump introduced him, putting him front and center, and he stood up and took the acclaim with a shit-eating smirk and a royal wave.

As for any “slapping around,” I merely made an observation from his PUBLIC APPEARANCE and how he chose to accept HIS FATHER’S ACCLAIM.

Here’s the slapping around…I think he’d get the shit kicked out of him in high school; 6’5” or not!
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Apologies,I hadnt seen the video at the time. He did look like a dick with all that finger to ears bullshit.

But I'll give him some grace, he is just 19 ... :)
 
Blue Maverick said:
Do the Democrats have a leader, I find it strange unlike over here the opposition have a leader and spokesperson the Democrats don’t as far as I can see, they seem very quiet probably licking their wounds but they should be calling him out on things he’s doing. Have a listen to The Rest is Politics US, very interesting on what they think Trump can and can’t do with his EOs how many probably will get dragged through the courts but also the grift on crypto and how that’s gone under the radar but basically means you can buy Trump off using it.
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There's no such thing as an official leader of a party in the USA. Unofficially, Trump leads the Republican party, so-much-so, that step out of line with Trump and your political career as a Republican is in jeopardy.

On the Democratic side, there's a leadership vacuum of sorts at the moment. When Biden was President, Democrats largely rallied behind Biden.

With respect to Trump's executive orders, even if there were a clear leader of the Democratic party, the sheer number of executive orders makes it hard to effectively message against the ones that are egregious - and there are numerous of such.

The 2nd Trump administration is going to be far different than the first. Trump now has competent, savvy advisors, planning each move of the Trump presidency in advance. Trump is a terrible organizer/planner, but right now, the organization and planning are being run by a very competent staff. And they are going to implement Project 2025.
 
BlueHammer85 said:
I wonder how comfortable he really is with his wing man doing speeches for Nazi parties in Europe.
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What's not to like, on the Trump side? He's a fucking Nazi himself.

What's going to get Musk into trouble is the perception that Musk is running the government. Trump will have none of that, period. It's all about Trump. Musk will be sidelined sooner or later for seizing too much limelight.
 
If Trump wanted Greenland for national security reasons and a ballistic missile detection system placed there. The system could be in place without buying a country and negotiated through NATO and Denmark. It’s the mineral resources he wants it for, why doesn’t he instead ring up his buddy in Moscow and offer to buy parts of his failing and hard up country instead? Would probably be much cheaper and if they didn’t play ball their army is shot to shit in Ukraine for an invasion.
 
I have a feeling that I know the answer to this, but why does Orange think you can get water from Canada to Los Angeles? That seems to be quite a long way.
 
MillionMilesAway said:
I have a feeling that I know the answer to this, but why does Orange think you can get water from Canada to Los Angeles? That seems to be quite a long way.
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You clearly haven’t seen the hundreds of miles of canals that supply water to SoCal already.

The Western USA has a big problem with water, such that water rights from the Colorado are fought over, tooth and nail. That one river is SO important to the western desert states.

If there is a dry winter in the Sierra’s and western Rockies, then the entire desert SW knows water is going to be an even bigger problem.

Phoenix, Las Vegas and the entire LA Basin are deserts, yet those cities (and their satellite “suburbs”) have grown exponentially over the last 25, 50, 100 yrs. In fact, you wouldn’t believe pictures of those cities from 100 yrs ago!

Now, I’m not saying the job is as simple as building a pipeline from Canada, but stranger things have happened…and if you look at the oil pipelines that have been built (and fought over…Keystone XL for instance), it is not out of the realm of possibility. However, as with everything these days, the cost would be eye watering!
 
ChicagoBlue said:
You clearly haven’t seen the hundreds of miles of canals that supply water to SoCal already.

The Western USA has a big problem with water, such that water rights from the Colorado are fought over, tooth and nail. That one river is SO important to the western desert states.

If there is a dry winter in the Sierra’s and western Rockies, then the entire desert SW knows water is going to be an even bigger problem.

Phoenix, Las Vegas and the entire LA Basin are deserts, yet those cities (and their satellite “suburbs”) have grown exponentially over the last 25, 50, 100 yrs. In fact, you wouldn’t believe pictures of those cities from 100 yrs ago!

Now, I’m not saying the job is as simple as building a pipeline from Canada, but stranger things have happened…and if you look at the oil pipelines that have been built (and fought over…XL for instance), it is not out of the realm of possibility. However, as with everything these days, the cost would be eye watering!
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I was aware that there was quite a lot of desert around. Without having looked, I'd not have thought where the Colorado flowed to, or that it was so important - thanks for that.

It was more that he seemed to imply that the infrastructure was already there, and apparently without any acknowledgement of WA and OR on the way south. Isn't OR often in drought conditions too?
 
Blue Maverick said:
Do the Democrats have a leader, I find it strange unlike over here the opposition have a leader and spokesperson the Democrats don’t as far as I can see, they seem very quiet probably licking their wounds but they should be calling him out on things he’s doing. Have a listen to The Rest is Politics US, very interesting on what they think Trump can and can’t do with his EOs how many probably will get dragged through the courts but also the grift on crypto and how that’s gone under the radar but basically means you can buy Trump off using it.
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The election for DNC leader, sort of a strategic head of the party, is ongoing, but we don't have party leaders in the sense the UK does.

I think one aspect of the muted response is that it's better to be patient on some of these things. For example, pardoning the January 6th defendants. Dems can make a legitimate point about the damage that did to the rule of law, but most voters don't care about abstractions like that, unfortunately. That said the J6 guys are born losers and cranks, and it is inevitable some of them will get arrested again in the future, whether for violence against authority figures, women, gun and drug charges, etc. When that happens you can really hammer Trump for putting dangerous criminals back on the street, with greater effect.
 
MillionMilesAway said:
I was aware that there was quite a lot of desert around. Without having looked, I'd not have thought where the Colorado flowed to, or that it was so important - thanks for that.

It was more that he seemed to imply that the infrastructure was already there, and apparently without any acknowledgement of WA and OR on the way south. Isn't OR often in drought conditions too?
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Not really. The Pacific NW has a pretty English climate, albeit they do have dry zones (they call them high desert here), especially in the rain shadow areas (those areas on the eastern side of any mountainous areas). This is why between the Sierras and the Rockies, there is a vast expanse of desert.

Water coming onshore is often squeezed out of the atmosphere by the lifting to get over the Sierras. From there, the dry air passes over the desert W & SW.

In the eastern US, our weather is driven by the low pressure that comes in from the west and sucks up warm, moist air from the Gulf of Mexico AMERICA (!!!). That’s what causes all the thunderstorms and resultant tornados in Tornado Alley, and the big snow and ice storms that harm the Midwestern states, and the massive thunderstorms that pummel the Central US & Gulf Coast states.

As it moves east, if the cold front ahead of the deep low is still strong when it reaches the Atlantic, and the low pressure center is tracking over the NE states, this is how you get the big “Nor’easters” that swamp the NE and bring them floods with above freezing temps and feet of heavy wet snow in the winter.

And THAT, is probably far more than you ever wanted to know about the predominant weather patterns in the USA!!

;-)
 
ChicagoBlue said:
You clearly haven’t seen the hundreds of miles of canals that supply water to SoCal already.

The Western USA has a big problem with water, such that water rights from the Colorado are fought over, tooth and nail. That one river is SO important to the western desert states.

If there is a dry winter in the Sierra’s and western Rockies, then the entire desert SW knows water is going to be an even bigger problem.

Phoenix, Las Vegas and the entire LA Basin are deserts, yet those cities (and their satellite “suburbs”) have grown exponentially over the last 25, 50, 100 yrs. In fact, you wouldn’t believe pictures of those cities from 100 yrs ago!

Now, I’m not saying the job is as simple as building a pipeline from Canada, but stranger things have happened…and if you look at the oil pipelines that have been built (and fought over…Keystone XL for instance), it is not out of the realm of possibility. However, as with everything these days, the cost would be eye watering!
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Why don’t they build a pipeline from the sea and desalinate the water?
It’s far closer than Canada
 
dickie davies said:
Why don’t they build a pipeline from the sea and desalinate the water?
It’s far closer than Canada
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Indeed, especially with the rising sea waters, amirite?! ;-) I’m assuming it’s the amount of water needed and the ongoing costs of desalination, when a pipeline is a “one and done” proposition…but I’ve not researched the idea, so I honestly don’t know the pitfalls and road blocks.

A quick question to Perplexity states:

The estimated cost for a pipeline from Canada to California ranges from $14 billion to over $23 billion, depending on various factors such as construction and operational logistics.

In contrast, large-scale seawater desalination plants in California have median costs of about $2,100 per acre-foot for large projects, making them one of the more expensive water supply options.

While desalination is costly and energy-intensive, the pipeline’s high initial investment may make it less appealing compared to a combination of desalination and other water management strategies.
 
ChicagoBlue said:
Indeed, especially with the rising sea waters, amirite?! ;-) I’m assuming it’s the amount of water needed and the ongoing costs of desalination, when a pipeline is a “one and done” proposition…but I’ve not researched the idea, so I honestly don’t know the pitfalls and road blocks.

A quick question to Perplexity states:

The estimated cost for a pipeline from Canada to California ranges from $14 billion to over $23 billion, depending on various factors such as construction and operational logistics.

In contrast, large-scale seawater desalination plants in California have median costs of about $2,100 per acre-foot for large projects, making them one of the more expensive water supply options.

While desalination is costly and energy-intensive, the pipeline’s high initial investment may make it less appealing compared to a combination of desalination and other water management strategies.
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And whilst desalination may be energy intensive, it is being done in a very dry area where solar and wind power could be maximised
Surely a country that puts men on the moon can move some sea water water and desalinate it
 
So not he wants to "clean out the Gaza population". Fuck me anyone who didn't vote for Harris due to the DNCs position on this topic needs there head examined...
 
ChicagoBlue said:
You clearly haven’t seen the hundreds of miles of canals that supply water to SoCal already.

The Western USA has a big problem with water, such that water rights from the Colorado are fought over, tooth and nail. That one river is SO important to the western desert states.

If there is a dry winter in the Sierra’s and western Rockies, then the entire desert SW knows water is going to be an even bigger problem.

Phoenix, Las Vegas and the entire LA Basin are deserts, yet those cities (and their satellite “suburbs”) have grown exponentially over the last 25, 50, 100 yrs. In fact, you wouldn’t believe pictures of those cities from 100 yrs ago!

Now, I’m not saying the job is as simple as building a pipeline from Canada, but stranger things have happened…and if you look at the oil pipelines that have been built (and fought over…Keystone XL for instance), it is not out of the realm of possibility. However, as with everything these days, the cost would be eye watering!
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Especially with a 25% tariff on top.
 
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