Arsenal (A) | PL | Post Match Thread

manimanc said:
I'm not even annoyed. The table doesn't lie and the rest are streets ahead, today isn't a shock.

What fans need to understand is this team or the vast majority of this team have give us the treble and 4 in a row.

They've had the downturn in form and intensity that I thought would happen last season or the season before that and this season it has happened.

No biggie. It happens and is happening. Yes we could have planned for the inevitable but we haven't so we have to crack on.

Top 4 is the priority now. Forget anything else. We will have to get through this season and there will be more batterings coming for us unfortunately but we have to take our medicine and suck it up.

All you posters cryarsing and going overboard on the criticism need to realise what this team, this club and this manager have given you these last 7 or 8 plus years.

Onwards and upwards.
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Were allowed a dip, its the falling off a cliff that's the problem. Doubt anyone saw the decline coming so fast. CL is such a big part of the owners interest, be surprised if heads don't roll if we fail to qualify for CL.
 
WallyA said:
Other managers have eventually learned everything about Pep, this is inevitable, over many years you can study him and take the good bits.

He isnt clearly the best anymore, still a top manager, but he might need to stay on top of what the new managers are doing and adapt.

Shouldnt fully blame thia game on him though, this was mostly the players fault, but Pep is at fault for how this gamr went as well.
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The bigger problem is that the things that made us so good aren't being done anymore. Pressing, accurate passing, no piss poor mistakes, controlling the game have evaporated to varying extents. We start doing all them things again effectively and we'll come good. It won't be with a large chunk of these players though, had their day.
 
Damanino said:
complete collapse just as the PSG game.

both mental and tactical issues on top of individual brainfuck errors.

we will struggle vs Newcastle too next league game no matter if they just lost to mediocre Fulham. big month ahead of Pep, only decent or great opponents apart from Leyton.

the way Arsenal didnt shit themselves from the 1-1 but we completely folded from the PArtey goal is the difference in mentality.
the way PSG didnt fold from us being 2-0 up vs them and the way we panicked and folded from their first goal and conceded some more after that.

its a theme, we folded vs Spurs, Sporting, Feyenoord too way too similar way. Pep clearly doesnt know the solution
yet.

Arteta completely owned Pep, its so bad to see this. his student ripped the master him to pieces. 5-1 and add to that the game at Etihad where we couldnt beat them despite their 1st half red card.
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Disagree. A poor squad has undermined Pep. Lego head hasn't owned him and never will.
 
Pep is right. Be more like Pep and calm tf down man.



Pep Guardiola: "I only regret the last 20, 25 minutes. We forgot to do what we should do, what we've done for 60, 65, 70 minutes. It's a difficult game starting like that in this stadium, against that team in the first minutes and it's happened many times this season.

"But after 10, 15 minutes we took the game, played really, really, really good. At 1-1, good momentum, with the passes to make transitions with Omar [Marmoush], and then deflection, third goal...

"After we didn't continue what we have to do in terms of defensively and being a little patient. When you play that way they can run and at 3-1 they're more comfortable and it's more difficult. I regret the last 15, 20 minutes. The rest? A really good game from our side. It's difficult when you see the result, but this is my feeling..."
 
Watch the goals again and imagine that our defenders did what every other team's defenders do to us...
In other words, CLOSE DOWN THE MAN WITH THE F***ING BALL!!?!
If we'd had the openings from which they scored their final 4 goals, I doubt we'd have got a clean shot away in any but maybe the last situation.
It's not rocket science - what do they DO in training? Practice running backwards? If so, I can tell you that they're wasting their time, because they've perfected that technique already.
Absolutely sickening to watch the same mistake being made over and over again.
Strange really - you'd think a genius coach would spot a pattern like that?
 
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