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FogBlueInSanFran said:
They will never desert him. Ever. For any reason. And by desert, I mean vote for Democrats to keep him and his feckless amoral lickspittles and his more craven Machiavellian opportunists out of office.
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It’ll be laid at the door of Dems, who must have broken the system, and Trump & Musk just discovered it in the Derp State’s Swampy underbelly!
 
BlueMoonAcrossThePond said:
So we're getting three new States under Trump? The State of Greenland, The State of Panama and The State of Gaza?

LOL.
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I understand your disbelief, but seriously, this really isn’t funny.

I know some will try to put a logic to this and defend yet another policy, but I’m almost done here.

His agenda is pretty much what he revealed before the election and way beyond.
Good luck trying to vote him out in a few years.
 
TonyM said:
Great video. Not sure how true any of it is but it does tie a lot of crazy with a lot of greed.

Seemingly a lot of billionaires are cunts.
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The most striking thing is that in this new Nirvanha the citizens will have no say. The tech billionaires will write the rules and say: “Sign here.” If you don’t, you will be ground down for bio fuel.
The vision is tech-fascism.
 
mancity2012_eamo said:
I understand your disbelief, but seriously, this really isn’t funny.

I know some will try to put a logic to this and defend yet another policy, but I’m almost done here.

His agenda is pretty much what he revealed before the election and way beyond.
Good luck trying to vote him out in a few years.
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It's difficult to see where all this is going, isn't it?
If Congress doesn't act (and it doesn't seem to want to do so), what will be left in 2 years time?
 
The first class action.
A group of agents from The FBI have filed a class action suit against the DoJ and by proxy against Trump.
Trump has told the DoJ to provide a list of all the people that were involved in investigating or prosecuting Trump. The DoJ in turn ordered the FBI to hand over a list of agents so engaged. The acting head of the FBI, Brian Driscoll refused.
Subsequently, a group of agents has filed a class action asking the court to put a stop to this list making. The suit alleges, inter alia, that the list is designed to create a hit list of agents for revenge sacking by Trump. Tellingly it also alleges that this list will be published giving Trumps enforcement army, the pardoned J6 insurrectionists the opportunity to take direct action against FBI personnel.
Make no mistake, this is an action of huge import for the preservation of the rule of law. Ultimately it may lead to a complete breakdown of the relationship between the DoJ and the FBI leaving Trump with no way to enforce his new laws.
 
KS55 said:
The most striking thing is that in this new Nirvanha the citizens will have no say. The tech billionaires will write the rules and say: “Sign here.” If you don’t, you will be ground down for bio fuel.
The vision is tech-fascism.
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I think that piece is too fantastical. But the idea of the citizens being essentially like contracted employees or limited investors seems plausible.

If I am understanding the concept right, people pay a fee (tax) to be protected and serviced (insurance, life assurance, health, education, police, etc) by a corporation that has a constitution that you buy into. People should feel safe and amongst peers. The corporate culture should be positive in your eyes. Some could be more waspish, some more liberal, some more rural, some more urban, some with an emphasis on sport, some with an emphasis on art, some with an emphasis on humour, etc. You choose what values you believe in, how you want your kids to grow up and how you want to grow old with nothing uncontrollable (unlike today, eg like phones for kids, social media warriors, preditors etc).

Also conflicts (wars) could be avoided if all the corporations adhered to a set of predetermined rules. This could be especially true if an advanced AI ensured that the macro level relationships were thought out 10 steps ahead so as to avoid issues. And AI determining the economic balance to ensure that no corporation became unsustainable. So peace and prosperity for all.

It all sounds like nirvana. But could it be trusted? Billionaires would still be cunts.
 
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Vic said:
Netanyahu praising Trump for thinking out of the box. I'd rather he was in a box not thinking.
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The far right religious parts of Netanyahu’s support at home firmly believe that Gaza is Israel, so it’ll be interesting to see the knots they have to tie themselves in to justify having Trump turn it into Atlantic City.
 
One more thing on this corporation becoming countries.

Imagine Ireland which is small enough and instead of us voting in politicians that never accomplished much, we had a board that had been appointed based on capacity to achieve much.

So in theory no more wasted money by politicians, no more time bickering. Just a set of common goals that we all work on e.g. 18 year olds meeting a certain level of education or scoring high in mental health assessments or meeting physical standards. All things that could only be achieved if everything up to then was positive and well executed.

And if people didn't like it they could be relocated off the island or to a section of the island (eg the midlands) where they are militarily isolated from the happy progressive population.

And this population could be proper Irish with music, food, drink, craic, sport, art, and us all happy as Larry when not working on whatever we need to keep it all going.

Again nirvana but how could we trust this not to be perverted so as to be harmful to the diddlyidlers or the ones we fenced off as nonbelievers.
 
Why would anyone in law enforcement want to work under this administration unless they want to be a stasi type? Would anyone in blue want to put their life in the line for this **** after what he did with January 6th mob? Going after FBI agents only doing their job because it was against him. I watched the film Civil war not long agin and thought what a load of shit, however loooking at it now it might not be far away and look what happened to the president at the end of that.
Whether people like @Dax777 like or not, no one will trust the USA ever again in the same way, they’ve become too powerful and I see a future where no one relies on them in the same way, if they really start pissing people off their bases in foreign countries will be fucked off the less reliant countries become, a bit like the Russian oil and gas, once countries find a way to go a different way they will. If Europe get their act together and don’t rely on USA military as much their sphere of influence decreases more and more, I’m hoping EU leaders are having discussions right now behind closed doors to do this. We cannot unfortunately trust the USA anymore.
 
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