Middle East Conflict | Netanyahu orders strikes on Gaza (p1161)

It's a head scratcher that in public he is threatening Jordan and Egypt saying he will withhold aid if they don't take in 2 million ethnically cleansed Palestinians, which would lead to massive instability in both countries and ultimately the fall of their Governments, and would also unite the Arab world including the Gulf States against America and into the arms of China and even better terms with Iran (Saudi has this alreadY)

Even for an igramanus like him non of this makes sense which leaves me to believe there must be something else in this, he keeps doubling down on it, and rather strangely saying that America won't be paying for any of it, neither will the Gulf states they have been quite unequivocal about it having a hand in this would be their collective end

It will go one of several ways, one it will never be mentioned again after this week (favourite) he will pull a rabbit out of the hat and offer a land swap solution, or ask the Israelis to ethnically cleanse Gaza for him on some pretex or other, I am not sure Israel could stomach this Sure the messianic right could but they are a small minority, and it would ensure the collapse of any peace treaties they have and it would remain a pariah state, with only one powerful friend
 
Postman Pep said:
A land swap where Israel gives up occupied land in order to annex a different bit of land with a beautiful coastline complete with untapped gas fields. Not sure even Abbas would stoop that low. Not that Palestinians appear to have a voice in this new era of 'solutions'.

I doubt any Israeli government would agree to it either. In order to transfer the population of Gaza to the West Bank they would have to clear out 700k settlers first. What would that look like? Remember when a much smaller number had to be dragged kicking and screaming out of Gaza?
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It's all about aid and support, now if my theory is correct the threat of ending it for Israel would bring them right to heal there has to be something else to this because on the face of this his so called solution would lead to Armageddon for the whole region

By the way Gaza will never be the Riviera of the Middle East there are plenty of other places that could be but are not for one reason, no one wants or needs another Riviera, plus a territory gained by ethnically cleansing the population is hardly an attractive investment opportunity
 
Ducado said:
The Palestinians would get the whole of the West Bank
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I know you're just reporting your acquaintance's opinion not stating your own, but I have to say I don't think that's plausible. The number of settlers already in the West Bank, plus the fact that the Israeli right wing consider that region to be the true historic core of Biblical Israel and therefore even more their birth right than the rest of Palestine, means that they would never give it up. To be fair, I don't think a swap of any kind would be likely - the current Israeli mood is 'we want it all.'
 
Ducado said:
It's a head scratcher that in public he is threatening Jordan and Egypt saying he will withhold aid if they don't take in 2 million ethnically cleansed Palestinians, which would lead to massive instability in both countries and ultimately the fall of their Governments, and would also unite the Arab world including the Gulf States against America and into the arms of China and even better terms with Iran (Saudi has this alreadY)

Even for an igramanus like him non of this makes sense which leaves me to believe there must be something else in this, he keeps doubling down on it, and rather strangely saying that America won't be paying for any of it, neither will the Gulf states they have been quite unequivocal about it having a hand in this would be their collective end

It will go one of several ways, one it will never be mentioned again after this week (favourite) he will pull a rabbit out of the hat and offer a land swap solution, or ask the Israelis to ethnically cleanse Gaza for him on some pretex or other, I am not sure Israel could stomach this Sure the messianic right could but they are a small minority, and it would ensure the collapse of any peace treaties they have and it would remain a pariah state, with only one powerful friend
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I think the mistake you're making is thinking that he's anything more than a thick **** who has no idea what he's doing.
 
Millwallawayveteran1988 said:
I think now they have Trumps backing, they could completely flatten the place.
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This would also provide the ideal opportunity to murder another few thousand innocent civilians who might otherwise get in the way of some real swell seaside developments.

This is the most horrific thing I have ever seem in my lifetime, yet the world stands idly by, doing nothing.
 
Has there ever been an instance when threatening terrorists that you're going to wipe them out, despite not having wiped them out already, has ever worked out well?

Who (other than the most nutjob Netanyahuites) are goin to tell their friends that they're off to the Gaza golf course for a holiday?

How is Orange going to take ownership of the strip without Israel first flattening it?

If Israel go postal, what becomes of the remaining hostages?
 
BTH said:
This would also provide the ideal opportunity to murder another few thousand innocent civilians who might otherwise get in the way of some real swell seaside developments.

This is the most horrific thing I have ever seem in my lifetime, yet the world stands idly by, doing nothing.
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Fucking scary isn't it?

I hope the Arab nations are working on something that might grab Trump and Bibi in the bollocks as the western leaders are either compromised or supporting this shit show.
 
The blue phantom said:
The Murderers have issued a statement

All hostages have to be released by noon Saturday or else the IDF are going in to finish the job.

They must be licking their lips those Israeli soldiers
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Even though thousands of Palestinians have returned to their homes/bombed out shells and Trump gives the order for all hell to break loose.

What is our government doing about it ? “Nothing the silence is heartbreaking” the BBC still only talking about Israel, the hostages is all the Palestinians have to negotiate with
 
After apparently almost flattening Gaza & wiping Hamas out © IDF, a ceasefire is created allowing the Palestinian's back whist releasing thousands of allegedly Hamas supporting criminals many of whom will now be back on Palestinian land meaning there's loads of Hamas running about again in Israeli eyes.

A cunning plan has been hatched right before our eyes, rip the body and any shelter out of Gaza, see the need to now continue to cleanse as the place is teaming with terrorists and go back in to finish the job.

The sane world just turns it's back, whistles and shuffles it's feet.
 
PinkFinal said:

That sounds like a prescription for a witch hunt. With Donald Trump in power and the might of the religious right they might even see getting rid of all these people as a plausible goal.
People like Satanyahoo do not stop until they are stopped.
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The threshold for being anti-semitic in the ADLs eyes is lower than a snakes belly. I could complain about the weather in Tel-Aviv and be called a Nazi.
 
If the genocide is completed we'll be lucky to avoid serious unrest.
Maybe that's part of Satanyahoo's agenda - to provoke violent disorder in European nations that have large Muslim populations. The result being civil war , pogroms and a murderous free for all. The 'counter Jihad' movement has worked tirelessly for years trying to persuade people to murderously hate Islam. I have no doubt at all that they want pogroms against the Muslim population. And also murderous violence against the left.
I believe that many in the Conservative Party also want this regardless of what they say.

I could of course be wrong and a little too pessimistic about human nature.
 
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