I think that's completely unfair on the likes of Alex Howell who contribute plenty of time and effort to holding the club to account on its shortcomings.
It's not fault of theirs that the club don't listen to a thing they say
Yes, Alex has been brilliant.
How can any fan group that holds talks with the club be ridiculed by other City fans?
All of them have had their mouths gagged with NDA's by City.
Can you imagine dealing with a company that NDA's every private meeting.
I was told the construction of the North stand is NDA'd as well. Nothing get's out about it via any company and it's work force that has secured work on the North stand.
City have become a secretive and paranoid club, hiding behind NDA's, and non fan engagement. This hasn't happened by chance, this has come from the people running the club.