City launch legal action against the Premier League | Club & PL reach settlement | Proceedings dropped (p1147)

Following the ruling that the APT rules from 2021 to Nov 2024 are null and void I keep hearing / reading about Sky (other news outlets are available) referring to a Manchester City club statement. The one place I would expect said club statement to originate is the official club website but I can’t see anything on there.

Has the club actually released a statement and if so where can I read.

Apologies if I have completely missed it
 
Bluewonder said:
I don't consider them to be journalists. I think a more apt job title is 'online football salesman'.

Their primary objective is to bait clicks.
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My term for them is ‘influencers’, and as you say, there to sell their wares on behalf of their masters, whether they be an interested football party or their political owners.
 
Dribble said:
That is the killer point for me. How can Stefan both admit he's not in receipt of the full facts surrounding the allegations or evidence offered, but then call into question the official club statement from our crack legal team who are? It makes zero sense & should come as no surprise that people are questioning his motives.

Essentially he's enabling those who still believe we're cheats & as guilty as sin regardless of the IC's findings. They believe we've not won on the evidence presented, but by loopholes in the process (time bars etc) & all this serves to do is prolong the bullshit we're all having to endure.

A reminder... Unlawful, Unfair, Unreasonable & now officially null & void. That seems pretty clear cut to me & most others, but Stefan disagrees with our legal team & the IC whilst admitting he's not in receipt of the full facts to even form a proper independent conclusion of his own.

I find this troubling & a bit weird, hence why I suspect his main concern is protecting his media profile rather than giving a full-blooded honest defence of City based on the conclusions reached by the IC & our preeminent legal team.
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What a load of tiresome bollocks.
 
Centurions said:
If anyone wants a laugh, it's here:-

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It is a staggering article, both in terms of its inaccuracy and dripping venom towards the club. Wallace likes to pass himself off as an academic and reasoned journalist, so you do wonder how he would view a situation in any other walk of life, where blatantly illegal laws were introduced to specifically discriminate against one or two targets. I suspect that he is just the sort of hypocrite who would be shouting his moral outrage from the rooftops. But in this scenario, he gladly accepts the cartel coin and lies for all he is worth. Utterly contemptible.
 
Champions again in 2012 said:
Following the ruling that the APT rules from 2021 to Nov 2024 are null and void I keep hearing / reading about Sky (other news outlets are available) referring to a Manchester City club statement. The one place I would expect said club statement to originate is the official club website but I can’t see anything on there.

Has the club actually released a statement and if so where can I read.

Apologies if I have completely missed it
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City appear to be deliberately keeping their powder dry on this. I noticed when Pep was asked they knew he wouldn’t comment but just confirmed he has nothing to say.

They have a strategy that’s not clear yet but I’m sure it will be.
 
Champions again in 2012 said:
Following the ruling that the APT rules from 2021 to Nov 2024 are null and void I keep hearing / reading about Sky (other news outlets are available) referring to a Manchester City club statement. The one place I would expect said club statement to originate is the official club website but I can’t see anything on there.

Has the club actually released a statement and if so where can I read.

Apologies if I have completely missed it
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One was read out on Sky and put on this thread but that’s the only time I’ve seen or heard it. City described its implications as “seismic” which was interesting.
 
cheekybids said:
City appear to be deliberately keeping their powder dry on this. I noticed when Pep was asked they knew he wouldn’t comment but just confirmed he has nothing to say.

They have a strategy that’s not clear yet but I’m sure it will be.
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Why would we,the case is still ongoing.
 
Whether or not said:
It is a staggering article, both in terms of its inaccuracy and dripping venom towards the club. Wallace likes to pass himself off as an academic and reasoned journalist, so you do wonder how he would view a situation in any other walk of life, where blatantly illegal laws were introduced to specifically discriminate against one or two targets. I suspect that he is just the sort of hypocrite who would be shouting his moral outrage from the rooftops. But in this scenario, he gladly accepts the cartel coin and lies for all he is worth. Utterly contemptible.
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I especially loved this little line, "The funny money has been stopped at the gate."
 
So much rubbish flying about and also the abuse of Stefan who everyone would be clamouring to believe if he was more positive is out of order.

The more you know, a lot of time the more complex things are.

Take are charges someone familiar with that might see different outcomes based on various scenarios, not least the fact we do not know each parties full pleadings and the case took a long time.

They may say they cannot call it.

Another person says know they would be fine because the club said so and gives no thoughts and opinions on any other possibility.

We get cleared, does that make person B more knowledgeable than person A?? No chance.

On this the press love a story and again we’re the bad guys trying to loosen the competition rules for our gain.

The inevitable £100 million a game Etihad contract or some other BS.

The rules came in 2021!!!

We could have been doing it for over 10 years if that was the case!!

Somehow this point gets lost.
 
Churchlawtonblue said:
The irony of that headline, clearly Wallace didn't follow or was aware of football in the 80s, 90s and 00s, when certain clubs could spend what they wanted.
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The other thing people forget is that clubs used to hold the power. They could say no to any player leaving a club. In a time before player power.
 
Silva2021 said:
So much rubbish flying about and also the abuse of Stefan who everyone would be clamouring to believe if he was more positive is out of order.

The more you know, a lot of time the more complex things are.

Take are charges someone familiar with that might see different outcomes based on various scenarios, not least the fact we do not know each parties full pleadings and the case took a long time.

They may say they cannot call it.

Another person says know they would be fine because the club said so and gives no thoughts and opinions on any other possibility.

We get cleared, does that make person B more knowledgeable than person A?? No chance.

On this the press love a story and again we’re the bad guys trying to loosen the competition rules for our gain.

The inevitable £100 million a game Etihad contract or some other BS.

The rules came in 2021!!!

We could have been doing it for over 10 years if that was the case!!

Somehow this point gets lost.
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I can only put it down to people being people (and that's not a good thing).

TH & Twosips amongst others have gotten the same treatment at times, usually in the transfer forum being called no-nowts, sell-outs and of being venerated by other fans. You'll see the same twisting of facts and statements or just opinions to "prove" that the poster is better informed. Very sad behaviour.
 
Centurions said:
You made me run to Wiki for that little lot :)

Well done.
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Me to!

The **Dunning-Kruger effect** is a cognitive bias where individuals with low ability in a specific area tend to overestimate their knowledge or competence, while those with high ability may underestimate their competence. Here's a breakdown:

- **Overestimation by the unskilled**: People who are not skilled in a particular domain often fail to recognize their own incompetence, leading them to have an inflated view of their abilities.

- **Underestimation by the skilled**: Conversely, those who are highly skilled might mistakenly assume that tasks which are easy for them are also easy for others, leading to an underestimation of their own abilities relative to others.

This effect was named after psychologists David Dunning and Justin Kruger, who first described it in their 1999 paper. The core idea is encapsulated in the phrase, "The more you know, the more you realize you don't know."

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