Real Madrid (A) | CL | Post Match Thread

failsworthblueboy said:
Fair comment mate but, Real Madrid have a much easier ride the League is weaker and La Liga help their teams who qualify for the CL our shower couldn't careless.
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Very true, but my point was we haven't dominated Europe as was suggested.
However, we've qualified for the CL for 14 seasons on the bounce and reached the knock-out stage 12 seasons on the bounce which is much better than any other English team.
 
The only mercy is now that now we are out we won’t have to listen to that **** McMannaman commentating on our matches again this season . To hear that fucking hypocrite banging on about one of our forward players should be dropping back to help Khusanov boiled my piss. Did anybody ever see that **** drop back and help his defence - like fuck . ****
 
I'm a huge Pep fan, like almost everyone else on here (and I absolutely want him to stay and turn this around), but the amount of poor tactical decisions he has made this season is shocking. Almost any other manager at any other club, after that display last night, coming after the season we've had so far, I don't think he'd be in a job by the end of the week. He's definitely living on past credit at the moment. I'm not calling for him to go, but I just pray he sorts this debacle out sooner rather than later
 
Fucking hell! One poor season and everyone spits their dummies out. Has Pep made mistakes? Yes. Is there a better Manager for us? No.

This season has been a clusterfuck and not all of it by our own making. We haven’t invested correctly in the playing but also we have been curtailed.

We’ll get our arses handed to us on Sunday. But after that the challenge for top 4 starts and we have a chance of an FA Cup. The rags would fucking love that situation.

COME ON YOU BLUES!
 
thegoatsthegoat said:
The best manager in the world, doesn't have a year off. He doesn't repeat the same mistakes, he doesn't offer no solutions, he evolves, he adapts, he innovates. Nothing Pep has done at all this season. His answer was to throw a load of money at it in Jan. As already pointed out, managers fade, they decline, they tire, they run out of ideas. I hope that hasn't happened here but there is every chance. His way of playing football has gone, teams are set up physically, direct and with pace which we cannot handle. His ideas need to change with it otherwise it would be downwards like a Mourinho. Time will tell where we are with Pep, his personal life can't have helped him to be the best version of himself either. He could and should be doing a lot better though.
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Pep doesn’t compromise on his principles, which is very common amongst manager nowadays.

I think it’s a squad building issue, we just haven’t bought the players needed over the past few years. We lack the profiles needed to play the way Pep wants to play. Excluding this Jan.

Then we gave Pep Klopp esque powers over the squad in the summer when really we should’ve got some more players in. We’ve recruited so badly that it was bound to catch up with us at some point.

I think getting rid of the Txiki- Pep dynamic will be a good thing imo. Viana needs to do what is necessary and what Txiki has failed to do over the past few years
 
noseve said:
Whereas, despite being humbled by RM twice in just over a week, you're always so complimentary about them...
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I haven't said anything uncomplimentary about them have I?? They are a very good side. The truth is though we did absolutely batter them two years ago. We were also the better team last season but went out on the lottery of penalties. The difference is no rag scum can poke fun at us given how garbage they are atm. Just a reminder of what they are....scum.Looks like you're a rag given how quickly you've jumped to their defence here.
 
Feed the Elk said:
City fans are deluded.
Did you really think we’d be able to compete with a makeshift back four (makeshift as in all but Gvardiol are not fit/match fit)

If you don’t have a settled back four you’ve got no chance as we’ve seen in numerous games this season. And then we come up against Real Madrid

The Dias mistake was due to rustiness, under normal circumstances Stones shouldn’t have been on the bench never mind starting such an intense match.

No one foresaw Dias and Akanji being so injured this season. Ake and Stones yes but the other two, no.

Where we went badly wrong was not buying a recognised right back and failing to read the crystal ball of defensive injuries.

Gvardiol aside, the entire defence has been injured more often than not which has been the source of the problem this season.
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We spent a fortune buying 3 x central defenders in January.

One is playing in France, one was not put in the Champions League squad, and one was stuck at right back and looks uncomfortable every minute he plays.

We can’t moan about defensive injuries.

We needed to buy an elite central defender and an elite right back in Jan yet fucked it up with shit recruitment yet again !
 
thegoatsthegoat said:
The best manager in the world, doesn't have a year off. He doesn't repeat the same mistakes, he doesn't offer no solutions, he evolves, he adapts, he innovates. Nothing Pep has done at all this season. His answer was to throw a load of money at it in Jan. As already pointed out, managers fade, they decline, they tire, they run out of ideas. I hope that hasn't happened here but there is every chance. His way of playing football has gone, teams are set up physically, direct and with pace which we cannot handle. His ideas need to change with it otherwise it would be downwards like a Mourinho. Time will tell where we are with Pep, his personal life can't have him to be the best version of himself either. He could and should be doing a lot better though.
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A lot of people will never accept that a manager can decline as well as players can. Arsene Wenger was a truly great manager for Arsenal, but they kept hold of him because of his past and not his present. In reality, he should have walked years before he did, because Arsenal would never have had it in him to sack him after all he'd done for them.

Whether this is a Pep blip in form or whether he truly has run out of ideas is something that only time will tell and we owe it to him to give him more time to get things right again, but there's no doubt that he's had a stinker this season.

His solution to the Rodri injury was to persevere with the same tactics when it was clear that Bernardo, Gundo, Lewis and Kovacic were simply not good enough/no longer young enough to carry them off and then, after we finally play well with Nico in the Rodri role in a game, we go out four days later with a flat four midfield that none of them are used to playing in and play Savinho centrally with Marmoush up front, with no width and no link between those four and the two up top when we needed to go at them when trailing from the first leg. It was clear to anyone from the first five minutes that we were never going to create anything with that formation, but we didn't adapt.

It's always been a bizarre trait that he'll not change things when things are clearly not working, but he will unexpectedly change things needlessly when they have worked very well.

Pep is the greatest manager we have ever had and arguably the greatest the world has had, but he's not flawless. For the moment, his ideas have been nullified by others and he's struggling to find a counter-question. I don't think it's as ridiculous as many think to suggest that fresh ideas from elsewhere might be a good idea. As previously stated, we don't want to get into the situation that Arsenal did where a legend gets a job for life based upon his past. Pep will not be sacked at any point. I don't want him to be, but I can't help but feel that he might well be regretting signing his contract extension right now, because I almost feel that he did so for the wrong reasons, and that's because he didn't want to be seen to be running away from the problems that the club has on and off the field.
 
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