Quite funny because it was Pep who didn’t want any new players so yes it was his fault. And what exactly was his plan? To leave after this season? That would bring City still into the position to completely change the core. It’s not even about him it’s about the club. He straight up refused to get new players just for the sake of it. The new coach would’ve the problem to get new players while not reaching the goals for obvious reasons.Anyone blaming Pep is literally the most fucking stupid or blind person with zero knowledge of football
It has been obvious all season that our midfield core that has taken us to the very top is finished -
KDB has been finished for 12 months - people need to not bury their heads in the sand about this. He cannot be relied upon - the amount of good performances this season can be counted on one hand....He cant run, cant tackle and cant/wont defend....Pep knows playing him leaves us down one man less defensively when we dont have the ball
Now you can say the same about Bernardo (to a slight lesser extent) and Gundo as well - that is the core of our midfield and without Rodri to add to it
There is literally no other options he has at this present moment of time.....
Grealish - Ive never rated him but that aint he point....there is something obviously going on with him (off the pitch probably) and at present he aint available one way or another.
Stones - is finished - he cant stay fit - we cant afford to have him int he squad anymore as he is never on the pitch....
Ake - as above with Stones.
Walker - gone and done -
Now thats the core of the defence as well
We dont have the physicality on the pitch anymore
Now someone tell everyone else how this changes without significant transfer investment - answer is it doesnt...
We are at the start of the rebuild....
NO manager in the world can change any of the above - its the end of an era....accept this - the signs were there last season.
Pep needs the chance to rebuild his team - now this is where the ONLY criticism of Pep can be levelled - did he refuse a rebuild in the summer - he has said he did but is this Pep protecting the club or is it true - if it is then yes there is criticism BUT its one mistake in a huge era of success. But then you also have to look at the people above him for that as well then including Khaldoon and Txixi - the whole set up dropped the ball in my opinion when we won the treble -that was the moment to start again.....and we laboured for another season and us winning the title last year papered over the significant obvious cracks - again KDB, Walker, Stones, Grealish - all poor in that last year
Pep deserves every ounce of support from EVERY fan - anything beyond this and those people need to fuck off - yes there is criticism of him (as pointed out by the potential refusal of rebuild) - but its one season in a decade of unparalleled success....IF there are fans saying that he should go you need to fucking grow up and stop acting like spoilt children - pathetic fucking losers.
Leaving everything else to one side, The style of play is truly awful to watch now . Saturday was a breath of fresh air when we were more direct , last night not one shot mustered until the 75th minute. Possession for the sake of it blows my mind.( At that stage we had just as much of the ball as they had.)We only end up getting turned over anyway. Pace!!!
Maybe Pep can change , the question is does he want to?
So our midfield core is finished, but that's not on Pep? At all?Quite funny because it was Pep who didn’t want any new players so yes it was his fault. And what exactly was his plan? To leave after this season? That would bring City still into the position to completely change the core. It’s not even about him it’s about the club. He straight up refused to get new players just for the sake of it. The coach would’ve the problem to get new players while not reaching the goals for obvious reasons.
For the love of God can you please fire up the players when the odds are against them? Talking up your opponents before a fiery game has never worked for him here, he did it before the game against the dippers when they wrecked our coach and now this.
I don't know if anyone else in football would get away with this, even Mancini acknowledged that the team would fight till the end despite the rags points at the top of the table. Put up a fight for christ sake.
It was genuinely stunning to see us set up the way we did. Beggared belief.I thought Newcastle would be the start of another rebuild, a rapid, energetic team. Everything that was good saturday Pep took away last night.
The tactics nullified our strengths. We were narrow, closing down our own space. Leaving Ederson, the centre backs and Nico no passing lanes what so ever.
It was a truly bizarre tactical
set up. I couldn’t believe what I was watching, somehow, we were simultaneously narrow and with no one central.
That’s my point. I don’t know if I worded it wrong or you read it completely wrongSo our midfield core is finished, but that's not on Pep? At all?
I'm fairly certain he has some remit on transfers and recommendations on who to bring in. If he sensed the midfield was winding down then he should have addressed it at least two seasons ago.
He needs to either adapt or fuck off. He was schooled last night and next season might be worse if he doesn't rethink his philosophy.
He does it every time in the CL. Overthinks, especially in important games.I thought Newcastle would be the start of another rebuild, a rapid, energetic team. Everything that was good saturday Pep took away last night.
The tactics nullified our strengths. We were narrow, closing down our own space. Leaving Ederson, the centre backs and Nico no passing lanes what so ever.
It was a truly bizarre tactical
set up. I couldn’t believe what I was watching, somehow, we were simultaneously narrow and with no one central.
Which is exactly what I posted ...this is the only area where pep can be blamed...... but as of the start of the session that isn't changeable.....and Pep isn't the only one at fault with the lack of recruitment...the DOF plays a significant part in thatQuite funny because it was Pep who didn’t want any new players so yes it was his fault. And what exactly was his plan? To leave after this season? That would bring City still into the position to completely change the core. It’s not even about him it’s about the club. He straight up refused to get new players just for the sake of it. The new coach would’ve the problem to get new players while not reaching the goals for obvious reasons.
Apologies I meant to reply to the other posterThat’s my point. I don’t know if I worded it wrong or you read it completely wrong
It's pretty well known that Pep wanted Rice, Bellingham and/ or Guimareas, but got Nunes and settled for a 34yo Gundogan.Which is exactly what I posted ...this is the only area where pep can be blamed...... but as of the start of the session that isn't changeable.....and Pep isn't the only one at fault with the lack of recruitment...the DOF plays a significant part in that
exactly what i was saying....some people are such mard arses they just need someone to whinge about it instead of looking at the facts and accepting football goes in cycles...ours for this cycle is at an end.....we need a rebuild....why do we need a new manager to do that? why not use the best manager in the world to do that?It's pretty well known that Pep wanted Rice, Bellingham and/ or Guimareas, but got Nunes and settled for a 34yo Gundogan.
I'm pretty sure he can't be blamed for our transfer activity.
Nowhere near mate . 2 new keepers a right back and cover aswell also a left back and that is just in defence and also arkanji ake and stones are injury prone . We have question marks over jack , nunes , kdb , silva , gundo , kova . One window is nowhere near as we are worse than a lot in here see .I think we're already half-way through the rebuild, Wirtz and a RB in the summer with Rodri coming back and the squad is ready to challenge.
I think we're already half-way through the rebuild, Wirtz and a RB in the summer with Rodri coming back and the squad is ready to challenge.
We've not been good but had we hung on to the three points against Feyenoord or got another point v PSG or Sporting then we might not have been facing Real, and we might be living another day. But, as most managers will tell yer, "It is what it is!"He does it every time in the CL. Overthinks, especially in important games.
We have been shite in Europe this season. Looking at the teams still in I want a Barca, Bayern or PSG victory. I don't really care that much, but Barca to hack off Real Mardarses, PSG to hack off Mbappe and Bayern - who I detest - simply because of VK.
My jury is out on Pep ATM- first time in 9 years I've felt like this. He really needs to adapt his tactics.
In Pep's defence 2 summers ago we had just won the treble and last season we won the league again, so he should be cut some slack. Hindsight is a wonderful thing with regards to these older players and i didnt hear any City fans moaning when we were winning these trophies. Last night Haaland not being available messed us up because he would have picked basically the same midfield and attack as Saturday, which doesn't mean we would have beaten Real but we probably would have been more competitive. Having a combination of both Bernie and Gundo was a recipe for defeat, it was going to be difficult anyway. City fans wanting him gone is ridiculous in my opinion and you are right why not have our greatest ever manager oversee the rebuild. Remember 18 trophies in 9 years our rivals would be ecstatic if we got rid of Pep.exactly what i was saying....some people are such mard arses they just need someone to whinge about it instead of looking at the facts and accepting football goes in cycles...ours for this cycle is at an end.....we need a rebuild....why do we need a new manager to do that? why not use the best manager in the world to do that?
Some people are so scared of losing (they cant be long term city fans thats for sure) - we got beat by the best team in the world, comfortably....that can happen to any team...we have a tired team who no longer can put in the hard yds
The guys at the top of the club (Pep, Txixi, Khaldoon) made a mistake last summer (and probably the summer before if we are honest) in not stepping up the recruitment phase. Its been SO obvious that KDB is finished - even last year but some fans think he is going to get back to where he was...hahahaha!! same with Stones.Ake, Walker - their decline or injury issues have all been there to see for well over 12 months - the club didnt react and that is down to others as well as Pep...im still seeing people post that we should keep Gundo....I mean FFS!! this watery eyed nostaligia for some of our players... We need to move on and Id rather have Pep doing that than ANY other manager in the world.
But Pep must be the guy that decides if KDB is finished or that Stones , Ake , Walker are in decline or constantly injured.The guys at the top of the club (Pep, Txixi, Khaldoon) made a mistake last summer (and probably the summer before if we are honest) in not stepping up the recruitment phase. Its been SO obvious that KDB is finished - even last year but some fans think he is going to get back to where he was...hahahaha!! same with Stones.Ake, Walker - their decline or injury issues have all been there to see for well over 12 months - the club didnt react and that is down to others as well as Pep...im still seeing people post that we should keep Gundo....I mean FFS!! this watery eyed nostaligia for some of our players... We need to move on and Id rather have Pep doing that than ANY other manager in the world.
You are trying to support Pep in this post whilst completely contradicting yourself.exactly what i was saying....some people are such mard arses they just need someone to whinge about it instead of looking at the facts and accepting football goes in cycles...ours for this cycle is at an end.....we need a rebuild....why do we need a new manager to do that? why not use the best manager in the world to do that?
Some people are so scared of losing (they cant be long term city fans thats for sure) - we got beat by the best team in the world, comfortably....that can happen to any team...we have a tired team who no longer can put in the hard yds
The guys at the top of the club (Pep, Txixi, Khaldoon) made a mistake last summer (and probably the summer before if we are honest) in not stepping up the recruitment phase. Its been SO obvious that KDB is finished - even last year but some fans think he is going to get back to where he was...hahahaha!! same with Stones.Ake, Walker - their decline or injury issues have all been there to see for well over 12 months - the club didnt react and that is down to others as well as Pep...im still seeing people post that we should keep Gundo....I mean FFS!! this watery eyed nostaligia for some of our players... We need to move on and Id rather have Pep doing that than ANY other manager in the world.
He has flogged then to death and admitted as much and admitted he thought they had another season in them notwithstanding we have not had a settled line up all season and he was wrong and the dominos fell quickly as I at least expected which isn't much of a revelation as you allude to in your post above , too many of them are crocks now past their best and often the best of them fall of a cliff very quickly. We won't always get the players we want but we have a pretty good one in Erling who will be even better around a side that can play to this obvious strengths with two Premiership titles already under his belt.exactly what i was saying....some people are such mard arses they just need someone to whinge about it instead of looking at the facts and accepting football goes in cycles...ours for this cycle is at an end.....we need a rebuild....why do we need a new manager to do that? why not use the best manager in the world to do that?
Some people are so scared of losing (they cant be long term city fans thats for sure) - we got beat by the best team in the world, comfortably....that can happen to any team...we have a tired team who no longer can put in the hard yds
The guys at the top of the club (Pep, Txixi, Khaldoon) made a mistake last summer (and probably the summer before if we are honest) in not stepping up the recruitment phase. Its been SO obvious that KDB is finished - even last year but some fans think he is going to get back to where he was...hahahaha!! same with Stones.Ake, Walker - their decline or injury issues have all been there to see for well over 12 months - the club didnt react and that is down to others as well as Pep...im still seeing people post that we should keep Gundo....I mean FFS!! this watery eyed nostaligia for some of our players... We need to move on and Id rather have Pep doing that than ANY other manager in the world.
exactly what i was saying....some people are such mard arses they just need someone to whinge about it instead of looking at the facts and accepting football goes in cycles...ours for this cycle is at an end.....we need a rebuild....why do we need a new manager to do that? why not use the best manager in the world to do that?
Some people are so scared of losing (they cant be long term city fans thats for sure) - we got beat by the best team in the world, comfortably....that can happen to any team...we have a tired team who no longer can put in the hard yds
The guys at the top of the club (Pep, Txixi, Khaldoon) made a mistake last summer (and probably the summer before if we are honest) in not stepping up the recruitment phase. Its been SO obvious that KDB is finished - even last year but some fans think he is going to get back to where he was...hahahaha!! same with Stones.Ake, Walker - their decline or injury issues have all been there to see for well over 12 months - the club didnt react and that is down to others as well as Pep...im still seeing people post that we should keep Gundo....I mean FFS!! this watery eyed nostaligia for some of our players... We need to move on and Id rather have Pep doing that than ANY other manager in the world.