President Trump

ChicagoBlue said:
MONEY. The promise of lots of it.

Trump signed an EO removing illegality of government officials giving OR RECEIVING BRIBES.

“So, who wants access to the resources Vladimir has given me for sucking his dick in public?

Make an orderly line over there and Don Jr will give you the numbered account details. If you didn’t bring 9 figures, don’t bother. If you brought 10, come to the front of the line.”
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There is more to it than money.

I believe he's likely compromised to Epstein levels and possibly beyond.
 
Dax777 said:
No. But unlike you, i just believe the evidence. There have been multiple rulings against his administration. And they are abiding by those rulings and challenging them in the courts where necessary.

You can feel free to believe or disbelieve whatever you like. I just wait for the evidence and go with that.


Its why i don't take any of the predictions here that seriously. I only care about what's factual. Not what i think or you think. Neither is particularly important.
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Saying you only care about what's factual and not about predictions is like a sailor ignoring the weather forecast because it hasn't happened yet. Sure, the storm isn't a fact right now, but dismissing the prediction outright is a good way to end up capsized.

Your reasoning (nd I use that term loosely) is flawed. Many actions can be predicted with some degree of accuracy, and refusing to engage with them isn't a sign of rationality, but of willful ignorance.
 
Dax777 said:
No. But unlike you, i just believe the evidence. There have been multiple rulings against his administration. And they are abiding by those rulings and challenging them in the courts where necessary.

You can feel free to believe or disbelieve whatever you like. I just wait for the evidence and go with that.


Its why i don't take any of the predictions here that seriously. I only care about what's factual. Not what i think or you think. Neither is particularly important.
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Of course you do.
What’s your take on the fact Ukraine started the war?

This is your starter for ten.
 
MillionMilesAway said:
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Terrible, yes?

The Trumpland Diary​

Let me give everyone one quick example of why Elon and his pack of flying monkeys at DOGE aren't quite the savvy tech geniuses playing 4D chess MAGA seems to think. They're more like a bunch of idiots playing checkers with rocks, bottle caps, and some saltine crackers the high schoolers keep nibbling on.

Here's how the idiocy began:
1. A wanna-be political influencer named Mario Nawfal went over to USASpending.gov and uncovered what he THOUGHT was a $9M contract between the Department of Defense (DOD) and Reuters (the news outlet) for a nefarious psy-op.
Nawfal then tweets out to his 44 million followers: "DOGE investigations reveal mysterious Defense Department payments to Reuters for "large scale social deception" project between 2018-2022."

2. Elon Musk sees Nawfal's tweet, reads it, doesn't bother to double check the story about what HIS OWN department is doing, and shares it to his 218 million followers.

3. Donald Trump reads Elon's tweet, and "truths" it out to his [sad] 9 million followers on Truth* Social, calling out the "Radical Left Reuters" and demanding they give back the money!!!
Here's WHY it's 9 levels beyond idiotic:
If you go to the USASpending.gov website (which Nawfal actually provides a screenshot of), you can plainly see the contract in question is between the DOD and "Thomson Reuters Special Services LLC."
REUTERS is a news outlet.
THOMSON REUTERS SPECIAL SERVICES is a cyber security firm ( https://www.trssllc.com/ )
Other than having the name "Reuters" in common, these businesses are different entities to each other.

"Okay, Shane, but then why did the DOD give THOMSON REUTERS a $9M contract for some 'large scale social deception'?!? Why is the DOD paying ANYONE—even if they're not a media outlet—to engage in 'large scale social deception?'"
THEY DIDN'T!
Look at the ENTIRE line item Mario Nawfal took a screenshot of:
ACTIVE SOCIAL ENGINEERING DEFENSE (ASED) LARGE SCALE SOCIAL DECEPTION (LSD)
Thomson Reuters Special Services LLC is a cyber security firm that was contracted by the DOD to provide cyber DEFENSE AGAINST "large scale social deception."

This contract DOGE "uncovered" doesn't involve in any way the media outlet they're naming. They got confused because 2 different companies have the same name. And the actual contract they're freaking out about does the exact OPPOSITE of what they're claiming it does.
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Step back and admire the complete fucking irony of Musk’s X tweeting out a lie about government and news media malfeasance…over $9,000,000 paid for supposed “large scale social disruption.”

Do people with Asperger’s recognize irony???
 
flook said:
Saying you only care about what's factual and not about predictions is like a sailor ignoring the weather forecast because it hasn't happened yet. Sure, the storm isn't a fact right now, but dismissing the prediction outright is a good way to end up capsized.

Your reasoning (nd I use that term loosely) is flawed. Many actions can be predicted with some degree of accuracy, and refusing to engage with them isn't a sign of rationality, but of willful ignorance.
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My goodness. Yes, just coz actions can be predicted with accuracy in some scenarios doesn't mean that's what is going on here.

What we have here are doon and gloom merchants hoping for the worst coz they don't like the person in office.

That's not using ones reasoning faculties. Just wishful thinking.
 
Dax777 said:
Youve missed my point. In saying government, i meant the State.
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Why do you keep replying to that when you’ve already done it three times and I’ve responded to you already?

And I didn’t miss your point, I corrected your point.
 
ChicagoBlue said:
Step back and admire the complete fucking irony of Musk’s X tweeting out a lie about government and news media malfeasance…over $9,000,000 paid for supposed “large scale social disruption.”

Do people with Asperger’s recognize irony???
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so many levels of awfulness.

just have to hope that the bird-flu-ridden chickens come home to roost quickly.
 
Dax777 said:
Who said Ukraine started the war?
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from the BBC

Ukrainian authorities expressed dissatisfaction over not being part of Tuesday's talks in Riyadh. But Trump dismissed these concerns, telling reporters that Ukraine had had three years to end the war, before appearing to blame Kyiv for starting the conflict.

"You should have never started it," he said. The Kremlin has previously accused Ukraine of starting the war against Russia.
 
ChicagoBlue said:
Years??? YEARS???!
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A reminder that it took Hitler less than 2 months (one month, three weeks, two days, eight hours, and 40 minutes to be precise) to dismantle Germany's democratic structure of government in the following way:

Used the law to make his actions seem legal,
Eliminated his opposition,
Changed the law, allowing him to become a dictator

The build up to that point was essentially him and his party creating a crisis, blaming immigrants for that crisis and then stirring up hatred against those people so he could manipulate people into thinking the only way to solve that crisis is to elect and support him in an 'only I can fix this' kind of way.

Uncanny the resemblance.
 
ChicagoBlue said:
That’s the OFFICIAL White House site.

It may be something that we revisit numerous times in the future, as a tipping point.
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Yes, hence why it was stupid of him to do. He does stupid stuff a lot. Like I've said a million times, i am more a JD Vance type of guy.

Trump can be an idiot sometimes.
 
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