President Trump

[flook]

When an illegal migrant with a criminal history was allowed to continue living in the country on the taxpayer dime even after his case had been adjudicated and deportation orders signed. But the administration chose to not enforce deportation orders. Did you ask if those who voted for that administration were ashamed?

First thing I'd think to ask would be why was the order not enforced. Presumably there was a reason? I assume the administration didn't just go "ah feck it, let him stay"

When one of such criminally convicted and deportation ordered was allowed to continue staying until he decided to rape and kill a victim. Were you ashamed then? Or did you wonder if those who voted in an administration that refused to evict those who the courts had ordered deported, were ashamed?

On the whole I agree with you, immigrants, whether illegal or otherwise, convicted of serious crimes should be deported.

However, was the woman referred to in TonyM's post a convicted criminal? Let's assume not. Why then should she be subjected to the abuse from the "proud boy" (fucking joke name btw, should just have "I'm a ****" tattooed on his forehead)

It seems in "Murica any immigrant, not binary person, sick lame or lazy is fair game these days, and this I do not agree with

 

[Mike N]

Turn the volume down and this could be Russia.

 

[Dax777]

There is no comparison.

Do you feel that this woman was treated fairly?

Do you think the crowd was valid in supporting her treatment?

Do you feel its right to have unidentified security in these forums?

Do you think the proudboy was legitimate in verbally assaulting the former government employee?

You are so close to being a nazi if you can't see the dangers here. But I doubt you care.

Ok cool. No comparison. Rape and death is far worse? I get it. Let me give you a better comparison

There was a man in Louden County who was assaulted and dragged out of a school meeting because he too was complaining about the schools policy of allowing trans women to share bathrooms with girls.

He wasn't just some Right-wing nut. Unlike this woman, He was the father of one of the 3 girls who was sexually assaulted in the girl's bathroom by a boy who sometimes dressed up in girls clothing to school and used the girl's bathroom.

His rape was covered up by the school, and he was transferred to a different school, where he subsequently assaulted 2 other girls.

His assault weren't covered up because the school district liked rape or sexual assaults... No no no... They are not that evil, yet!. It was covered up because the good people on that school board didn't want Right-wing nutjobs latching on to the rape story and using it as an example of why we shouldn't let boys share girls bathrooms, even if some of those boys genuinely thought they wew girls.

So in keeping up with the ideology and keeping up with being kind to the least amongst us, 3 young girls were sacrificed in other to allow open bathrooms for trans to pass unchallenged


The father of one of those sacrificed lambs was who was loudly complaining when he got manhandled dragged out of a meeting and prosecuted.


Im sure you've never heard of this story or care...

And no, i don't want you caring now either. You are just a hypocrite. We see you for who you are And its why i don't care much for your example.

 

[TonyM]

Ok cool. No comparison. Rape and death is far worse? I get it. Let me give you a better comparison

There was a man in Louden County who was assaulted and dragged out of a school meeting because he too was complaining about the schools policy of allowing trans women to share bathrooms with girls.

He wasn't just some Right-wing nut. Unlike this woman, He was the father of one of the 3 girls who was sexually assaulted in the girl's bathroom by a boy who sometimes dressed up in girls clothing to school and used the girl's bathroom.

His rape was covered up by the school, and he was transferred to a different school, where he subsequently assaulted 2 other girls.

His assault weren't covered up because the school district liked rape or sexual assaults... No no no... They are not that evil, yet!. It was covered up because the good people on that school board didn't want Right-wing nutjobs latching on to the rape story and using it as an example of why we shouldn't let boys share girls bathrooms, even if some of those boys genuinely thought they wew girls.

So in keeping up with the ideology and keeping up with being kind to the least amongst us, 3 young girls were sacrificed in other to allow open bathrooms for trans to pass unchallenged


The father of one of those sacrificed lambs was who was loudly complaining when he got manhandled dragged out of a meeting and prosecuted.


Im sure you've never heard of this story or care...

And no, i don't want you caring now either. You are just a hypocrite. We see you for who you are And its why i don't care much for your example.

I don't want a comparison. We can compare later if you like. That is a separate discussion.

I am specifically commenting on this case. Are you happy with the situation with this lady and the proudboy?

 

[Trevor Morley's Tache]

Turn the volume down and this could be Russia.

100%

These people attempting to physically restrain the woman did not identify themselves as law enforcement, but they came prepared with zip-ties. Given that she was sat down and in no way posing a physical threat, they had zero rights to touch her. She on the other hand would have been well within her rights to defend herself with proportionate force had she felt inclined to do so.

 

[The perfect fumble]

So, anyway, back to Trump...

The guy has been nominated for a Nobel Peace Prize FOUR times. and is desperately fishing for another nomination for his 'sterling' work on Ukraine.

He's so angry that 'Barrack Hussain Obama' has one.

Honestly, which sycophantic asshats nominated this guy?

Benjamin Netanyahu has been previously nominated, Henry Kissinger actually won it.

Israeli Prime Minister Menachem Begin shared the 1978 Nobel with Egyptian President Anwar Sadat. Begin went on to, among other things, order the Israeli invasion of Lebanon in 1982 and the (siege) of Beirut, and that indirectly led to the massacre of Palestinians in the Sabra and Shatila refugee camps.

Barack Obama won the Nobel Peace Prize just nine months after taking office as US president, even he was minded to ask "for what?"

Trump might be the world's most powerful arsehole, but war doesn't seem to be his thing, it's expensive and there's little profit in it.

Notwithstanding, he's not getting it.

 

[Dax777]

First thing I'd think to ask would be why was the order not enforced. Presumably there was a reason? I assume the administration didn't just go "ah feck it, let him stay"

Funny enough, for the similar reasons for why Trump froze all foreign aid.



When the Biden Admin entered office, he signed an order freezing all deportation for 100 days, because , according to them, they wanted to more comprehensively understand what was going on and focus prioritize on the Presidents new policy shift.

Again, not a whisper of noise eas heard on this threads when that happened. ...

Anyway, the new policy was more focused bon finding root causes, and long term solutions to yhe immigration problems.
The 100 days freeze order however was challenged in the courts and the court ruled that Biden couldn't do that... But then again, the courts can't force the executive to do its job at the speed the court thinks is sensible... That would be substituting the courts judgement for the executive's.

So the Biden Admin pretty much slow walked deportation orders as best they could. In short: it was in fact a " ah feck it, let him stay." Not because they wanted criminals, but because deportation was NOT a priority.

On the whole I agree with you, immigrants, whether illegal or otherwise, convicted of serious crimes should be deported.

This is why i ask if TonyM thought those who voted for the previous administration were ashamed?

However, was the woman referred to in TonyM's post a convicted criminal? Let's assume not. Why then should she be subjected to the abuse from the "proud boy" (fucking joke name btw, should just have "I'm a ****" tattooed on his forehead)

It seems in "Murica any immigrant, not binary person, sick lame or lazy is fair game these days, and this I do not agree with

The woman in the video is more akin to the man in my moat recent post. She was at a local town hall meeting. And qas disruptive and asked to leave. One can choose to agree or disagree with a myriad of issues here;
1. The town hall for not allowing descent
2. The woman for being unruly ) after she? As asked to leave,)
3. The men who dragged her out.

But none of this has anything to do with any viter who voted anywhere for anything..

This happened in a predominantly Republican town. Ahe could have been dragged out in any administration.


Just like people in Florida and in Pittsburgh who denied service to Trump voters or Republican s etc. can happen under any administration.

Its idiotic to use this r as some 'call Dax a Nazi' dog whistle.

 

[blueparrot]

Ok cool. No comparison. Rape and death is far worse? I get it. Let me give you a better comparison

There was a man in Louden County who was assaulted and dragged out of a school meeting because he too was complaining about the schools policy of allowing trans women to share bathrooms with girls.

He wasn't just some Right-wing nut. Unlike this woman, He was the father of one of the 3 girls who was sexually assaulted in the girl's bathroom by a boy who sometimes dressed up in girls clothing to school and used the girl's bathroom.

His rape was covered up by the school, and he was transferred to a different school, where he subsequently assaulted 2 other girls.

His assault weren't covered up because the school district liked rape or sexual assaults... No no no... They are not that evil, yet!. It was covered up because the good people on that school board didn't want Right-wing nutjobs latching on to the rape story and using it as an example of why we shouldn't let boys share girls bathrooms, even if some of those boys genuinely thought they wew girls.

So in keeping up with the ideology and keeping up with being kind to the least amongst us, 3 young girls were sacrificed in other to allow open bathrooms for trans to pass unchallenged


The father of one of those sacrificed lambs was who was loudly complaining when he got manhandled dragged out of a meeting and prosecuted.


Im sure you've never heard of this story or care...

And no, i don't want you caring now either. You are just a hypocrite. We see you for who you are And its why i don't care much for your example.

So it’s okay for Trump to do terrible things, because other terrible things have happened. Ever heard the phrase 2 wrongs don’t make a right. Do you have a scoring system ?

 

[FogBlueInSanFran]

You and always hearing from your friends. Last time you heard from your friends who had decided in 2020 that they weren't doing this anymore and voted against Trump. Are those the same friends who are now regretting voting for Trump in 2024? Did they forget what they told you in 2020 and went back to Trump and now regret it? Or are these new friends who didn't listen to your other friends from 2020 who had figured it out?

We are trying to know you better, just asking.

I am, true, some of them, some of them, some of them, who is “we”?

 

[FogBlueInSanFran]

So it’s okay for Trump to do terrible things, because other terrible things have happened. Ever heard the phrase 2 wrongs don’t make a right. Do you have a scoring system ?

He voted for Trump despite calling him “an idiot all of the time” and now defends him. So apparently, two wrongs + a right = a right. There isn’t a single thing Trump has done or will ever do that this toady gimp won’t justify with “Biden did . . .”, “Clinton did . . .”, fucking “William Henry Harrison did . . .”

 

[Dax777]

So it’s okay for Trump to do terrible things, because other terrible things have happened. Ever heard the phrase 2 wrongs don’t make a right. Do you have a scoring system ?

If that's what you got from my post then that's disappointing.

Trump didn't do anything. A woman at a town hall meeting in a Republican town got dragged out. So what?

If a conservative in a liberal town gets dragged out or denied services ( which has happened by the way) who should we blame then?

The people who didn't vote for Trump? Its a dumb example is the point. Asking if i like a woman being dragged out is stupid.

Do people who voted for Biden liked a woman being raped and killed? Or the father of a girl who was raped, ,and the event covered up, getting dragged out of a meeting. Did they like that?

And if they don't, are they willing to admit they made a mistake when all this happened under the Admin of the guy they voted for?

Its twisted logic...

 

[blueparrot]

If that's what you got from my post then that's disappointing.

Trump didn't do anything. A woman at a town hall meeting in a Republican town got dragged out. So what?

If a conservative in a liberal town gets dragged out or denied services ( which has happened by the way) who should we blame then?

The people who didn't vote for Trump? Its a dumb example is the point. Asking if i like a woman being dragged pur is stupid.

Do people who voted for Boden liked a woman being taped and killed? Or the father of a horl who was raped and the event covered up, getting dragged out of a meeting. Did they like that?

And if they don't, are they willing to admit they made a mistake when all this happened under the Admin of the guy they voted for?

Its twisted logic...

Because Trump and his supporters have created a situation where it emboldens some people to behave this way and think it’s acceptable, the more emboldened Trump makes them the worse it will get.

 

[Dax777]

He voted for Trump despite calling him “an idiot all of the time” and now defends him. So apparently, two wrongs plus a right = a right.

You've said this shit about 5 times now. I know it just could be your normal lying as part of your character assassination gimmick....

But on the off chance you are just being stupid and don't know... I actually did not say the above.

But feel free to continue repeating it because obviously for you the end justifies the means.

 

[FogBlueInSanFran]

A woman at a town hall meeting in a Republican town got dragged out. So what?

Sooner or later, the mask aaaalllwwwaaayyyyss slips.

Always.

 

[Dax777]

Because Trump and his supporters have created a situation where it emboldens some people to behave this way and think it’s acceptable, the more emboldened Trump makes them the worse it will get.

Who emboldened the people who are denying Trump voters service at restaurants?

Who emboldened the people who attacked and carried out the father of the raped girl at the school board meeting?

 

[Dax777]

Sooner or later, the mask aaaalllwwwaaayyyyss slips.

Always.

Yes, i was pretending to be your friend all along.

 

[FogBlueInSanFran]

You've said this shit about 5 times now. I know it just could be your normal lying as part of your character assassination gimmick....

But on the off chance you are just being stupid and don't know... I actually did not say the above.

But feel free to continue repeating it because obviously for you the end justifies the means.

You actually did. I am sure you’ve hurriedly deleted it by now. No matter, I’m going to keep on quoting you.

Just as you’ll delete your “so what” post above. And I’ll keep on quoting that.

You don’t have any character to assassinate.

 

[flook]

Funny enough, for the similar reasons for why Trump froze all foreign aid.



When the Biden Admin entered office, he signed an order freezing all deportation for 100 days, because , according to them, they wanted to more comprehensively understand what was going on and focus prioritize on the Presidents new policy shift.

Again, not a whisper of noise eas heard on this threads when that happened. ...

Anyway, the new policy was more focused bon finding root causes, and long term solutions to yhe immigration problems.
The 100 days freeze order however was challenged in the courts and the court ruled that Biden couldn't do that... But then again, the courts can't force the executive to do its job at the speed the court thinks is sensible... That would be substituting the courts judgement for the executive's.

So the Biden Admin pretty much slow walked deportation orders as best they could. In short: it was in fact a " ah feck it, let him stay." Not because they wanted criminals, but because deportation was NOT a priority.


This is why i ask if TonyM thought those who voted for the previous administration were ashamed?



The woman in the video is more akin to the man in my moat recent post. She was at a local town hall meeting. And qas disruptive and asked to leave. One can choose to agree or disagree with a myriad of issues here;
1. The town hall for not allowing descent
2. The woman for being unruly ) after she? As asked to leave,)
3. The men who dragged her out.

But none of this has anything to do with any viter who voted anywhere for anything..

This happened in a predominantly Republican town. Ahe could have been dragged out in any administration.


Just like people in Florida and in Pittsburgh who denied service to Trump voters or Republican s etc. can happen under any administration.

Its idiotic to use this r as some 'call Dax a Nazi' dog whistle.

OK thanks for explaining that, but in this instance, she wasn't an immigrant with a criminal record, she's an american citizen exercising her right to free speech isn't she? There is no excuse for physically assaulting her, whether she's being disruptive or not, particularly as the two who pulled her out refused to identify themselves.

Was this "normal behaviour" in america before Mango Shitgibbon? Or is this the new acceptable norm? If the former then I'll leave it at that, if the latter, then it does become relevant doesn't it?

I get that overly disruptive people can be removed, I don't know what level of disruption she achieved, but the manner in which it was done was disturbing. There's a difference between being pulled out by a couple of coppers, or the sheriffs department or whatever you wild west types like to call your law enforcement, and being ejected by a couple of thugs who refuse to identify themselves and "appear" to have no official capacity to perform that act

Finally, if you are a Trump supporter after what he's done since taking office, then you're well on the road to being a nazi anyway, irrespective of this discussion

 

[blueparrot]

Who emboldened the people who are denying Trump voters service at restaurants?

Who emboldened the people who attacked and carried out the father of the raped girl at the school board meeting?

Carry on deflecting from the point discussed , discussing anything Trump with you is a waste of time and effort, it just becomes whataboutery.

 

[Dax777]

You actually did. I am sure you’ve hurriedly deleted it by now. No matter, I’m going to keep on quoting you.

Just as you’ll delete your “so what” post above. And I’ll keep on quoting that.

You don’t have any character to assassinate.

Oh! So its just one of your made up beliefs. Cool!. Carry on then. :)