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Liverpool have a 25K season ticket holders cap so they can milk 35K day trippers every home game. We are following their model
I suppose this is where the government regulator needs to come in and put a %age figure on season tickets. Say, 66% of seats must be offered as season tickets at any club. If lower numbers are causing a detrimental effect to atmosphere then that should come under their jurisdiction as it’s their job to protect the national game.

No wonder some of the clubs don’t want one.
 
Because in a variety of ways over may years the club has manged to (deliberately) alienate scores of thousands of (Mancunian) City fans, whilst simultaneously blanking young, local fans.

Loads of school parties on Sunday, non with Mancunian or Northern accents !!
It drives me mad that. Coach loads of kids from Scotland! (Often not city fans) But schools full of city fans in the local area that don’t get any tickets.
 
It drives me mad that. Coach loads of kids from Scotland! (Often not city fans) But schools full of city fans in the local area that don’t get any tickets.

It probably goes back to money again.

A bloke down here in deepest Dorset’s son is City mad. His local football club often takes a few kids up, they might get a stadium tour/training session chucked in and then pay wildly over the odds for a ticket. Not sure a Mancunian blue would pay those inflated fees.
 
But the club don't want season ticket holder, if they was available then you probably would sell out more with local fans. They want the tickets to sell as many hospitality as possible, £350 ticket but comes with a chinese in town. The club isn't remotely arsed about local fans, but even with local fans we would need the tourists a lot of the time for the complete sell out. Look at our attendances at this ground pre takeover.

'but even with local fans we would need the tourists a lot of the time for the complete sell out'

I don't think we would. If tickets were affordable, were available without the gimmick of £35 Citizens cards, £150 Flexi Gold season tickets, families could sit together, etc, we would sell out no problem.

As it is, you have to buy a citizens card to by a match ticket.
You now can only buy a flexi-gold season ticket.
There is little or no chance of a family getting seats together for a home match.(yet tourists can get multiple seats together)
Add football matches being changed and rescheduled for TV.
Poor transport infrastructure.
Worsening traffic.
You can start to understand why local City fans, City families, have given up trying to watch City.

Now we have the added issue of away fans in all over the groun and it kicking off.(North stand on Saturday, etc)

Why would parents want to bring their kids to City matches with all that happening?

Going to a match should be inexpensive, and a fun day out for all the family. Especially for the younger generation of City fans who will be our future support. Or not, as it's turning out to be.
 
And if fans are selling tickets on through football ticket websites what difference is that to what the club is doing?

I would hazard nothing at all, as I doubt the club put in any additional security checks. There only real issue is there not making the mark up.

It’s unrealistic to think amongst 50k persons no one is shifting tickets on but that is completely different to the overarching organisation, responsible for ticket distribution, undertaking those practices. As always with our club it’s all about the bottom line.

Agree.
100 percent mate. All you need is an email.
My eldest couldnt go on Sunday so he transferred his ticket to me. I got the email stating its ready to download. I just forwarded it onto his mum who is a lifelong blue and she downloaded it into her apple wallet.
For me that is potentially what will have happened on Sunday. I could easily have forwarded the email to a liverpool fan ( not that I ever would) and then you have an away fan in a season ticket holders seat.
It is a huge problem. It isn't just City. Rangers had a block behind the goal at the swamp etc.
I really have no idea how to solve the issue. The one thing I hate is champions league nights. Being sat with people who I dont know or never go because its fashionable to go to those games. Was at Villa this season,Arsenal,Liverpool away amongst others. Fucking full of tourists ruining the atmosphere, not singing. Just fuck off and sell away tickets to people who deserve them.

Won't be long before they stop this if that's the case. Loads moaning they couldn't get the email ticket option for the Madrid game for those not on CL scheme.
 
Just seen some clips of Leeds fans in the Sheffield United and getting filled in, one of them looked in pretty bad shape.

And somewhere on here is a thread about trialing alcohol in the stands. It’ll never happen because of people with the mindset of thinking it’s ok to assault people in a stadium over football. I get the fact if they have been a gobshite then it’s inevitable because there are some dumb cunts out there, but would that happen on a random street if someone of another club said something derogatory to some bloke who is out with his wife, for example, and he had his own clubs shirt on? No, it wouldn’t.

Imagine going to work and your boss hauls you in and shows you footage of you assaulting someone in a stadium? Or your family see it, friends etc. It is fucking pathetic when you think about it.
 
Found out something really interesting this afternoon.
The lad in 115 was a City fan.
Not bullshitting, no reason to. Been here long enough to know not but I have no reason to doubt it from my contact. Not a good fucking look blues.
 
Found out something really interesting this afternoon.
The lad in 115 was a City fan.
Not bullshitting, no reason to. Been here long enough to know not but I have no reason to doubt it from my contact. Not a good fucking look blues.
Not doubting you but why was he filled in then
 
It probably goes back to money again.

A bloke down here in deepest Dorset’s son is City mad. His local football club often takes a few kids up, they might get a stadium tour/training session chucked in and then pay wildly over the odds for a ticket. Not sure a Mancunian blue would pay those inflated fees.
It’s a short term money grab in my opinion.

Surely you’d want kids in the local area attending games. There the future of the club, especially when we stop winning things.

We’ve got kids in beswick who have never been to a league match - how is that right?

City in the community - except for the poor locals who we don’t want to attend games.
 
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It probably goes back to money again.

1A bloke down here in deepest Dorset’s son is City mad. His local football club often takes a few kids up, they might get a stadium tour/training session chucked in and then pay wildly over the odds for a ticket. Not sure a Mancunian blue would pay those inflated fees.
.....but he/she might buy a season ticket et al, for 40 years, rain, shine,good, great, or shit !!

HH Sheikh Mansour's words, along with those regularly by Khaldoon, will be put to the critical test of trust in the coming weeks.

When trust is broken, and words meaningless, there is a paradigm shift in relationships and the former is very hard to regain without huge scepticism and doubt.

A very important tipping is approaching.

I hope everyone at the club is alive to the fact the reputations of the owner and chairman are on the line and will be subject to public scrutiny and account.
 
It’s a short term money grab in my opinion.

This and only this!

In 20 years time when legacy fans have fucked off and the new fans go somewhere else because we are shit, the money will follow them and then we die and rot on the vine because there isn't anyone left to give a fuck about the club.

If we can stop it we need to stop it right now.
 
One thing I wonder about though is WHY this has continued for so long.

As big as the Premier League's global TV deals are, along with how much money the club make from sponsorships, merchandise, and licensing, how much does matchday gate revenue REALLY make a difference to City anymore?

I have a very hard time believing that lowering ticket prices and making sure more tickets end up in the hands of long-time City fan will hurt the club's bottom line in any significant way.
Hard to say but match day revenue is approximately 100% of profit (similar figures) and the profits we make are generated by player sales. Some of our player sales have proven to be rash in the last year or two and we are now investing heavily in the squad again. My take is that we could do targeted measures to lower tickets prices, particularly for younger families.

Prices could be reduced more substantially if there was more restraint over player wages. KDB and Phil Foden earn £700k between them each week. There wasn’t much a return on Sunday for that outlay.
 
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Interesting, up until yesterday, Livefootball Tickets used to always state how many tickets they had available for a given game. For instance they had listed more than 3,000 available for United v Ipswich :-)
Now they just state "tickets available". All the recent noise about agency seats maybe getting some traction....but not to stop them getting tickets, they've probably just been told to be less obvious about how many they have!
 
The lack of reply to the open letter is criminal. Genuinely concerned for a Plymouth fan this weekend unless the club do something this week.

1894 going on talksport could be exactly what's needed
As was the lack of support and zero acknowledgment from the Club over the shitshow at Istanbul.

That set the tone for where we are now.
 
Just seen some clips of Leeds fans in the Sheffield United and getting filled in, one of them looked in pretty bad shape.

And somewhere on here is a thread about trialing alcohol in the stands. It’ll never happen because of people with the mindset of thinking it’s ok to assault people in a stadium over football. I get the fact if they have been a gobshite then it’s inevitable because there are some dumb cunts out there, but would that happen on a random street if someone of another club said something derogatory to some bloke who is out with his wife, for example, and he had his own clubs shirt on? No, it wouldn’t.

Imagine going to work and your boss hauls you in and shows you footage of you assaulting someone in a stadium? Or your family see it, friends etc. It is fucking pathetic when you think about it.
Doesn’t even need to be opposing fans either. Wembley virtually every time there is Blue on Blue trouble.
 
Away Game Season Tickets -:

Qualifying points criteria.

Ballot to ensure a 'churn' of allocations.

Would something like this, or similar, alleviate the 'tourist' issue ?
 

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