Churchlawtonblue
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Hope Zelensky doesn't cave in to Trumps demands.
Me too but he is desperate and may give in more than he wants toHope Zelensky doesn't cave in to Trumps demands.
Not sure he’s desperate, think Trump is more desperate to get a deal done for his ego, his greedy grubby little hands and his mate in the KremlinMe too but he is desperate and may give in more than he wants to
Desperate to stop the unlawful killing of his peopleNot sure he’s desperate, think Trump is more desperate to get a deal done for his ego, his greedy grubby little hands and his mate in the Kremlin
Trump withdraws from NATO, America voting against Ukraine with Russia, Belarus and Nth Korea at the UN we shouldn’t be meeting with Trump either.I would add, I genuinely believe Trump knows he isn’t getting a signature and is using this to get mass media coverage to say , we tried but Zelensky refused
He’s lost the fucking plot, everything he’s done is the greatest, please god he leaves this earth soon.The US president was asked near the end to repeat his statement that President Zelenskyy was a dictator, and replied: "Did I say that? I can't believe I said that. Next question."
Trump withdraws from NATO, America voting against Ukraine with Russia, Belarus and Nth Korea at the UN we shouldn’t be meeting with Trump either.
Today another meeting Starmer in there now with a letter from the King, deep breath Trump has accepted the invitation:):) bl**dy cheek after how Trump called Europe
The US president was asked near the end to repeat his statement that President Zelenskyy was a dictator, and replied: "Did I say that? I can't believe I said that. Next question."
:) :) the security code will be Red plus, higher than ever there’s a lot of bad feeling with Trump siding with the RussiansDiplomacy is a bitch sometimes, but you play the cards you have and a sit down with the King or Queen is a card we have played often enough.
Now, it’s up to the British public to ensure we give the orange shit stain an old fashioned British welcome. A chorus of ‘fuck off you fascist ****’ will set the tone nicely.
I think Zelenski sees this as short term pain. Trump is only around for 4 more years, max. After that he'll be looking for an annulment or a re-negotiation. A Democrat in the White House would be a willing ally in that, embarrassing Trump and painting him as a tyrant. In the mean time it acts as a deterrent to Putin to try to take any more territory, when US interests would be jeopardised. Trump may be weak as a person, but the armed forces he has at his disposal are not and Trump possibly sees them as an extension of his business interests, just like Putin does. In the worst case it will mean hard currency coming in to Ukraine, which they need lots of, now and in the future.On the mineral deal,
Basically it is an agreement setting the ground rules to make a deal.
Ukraine is commiting to share 50% of future revenues from NEWLY exploited mineral resources in exchange for 50% of investment in developing those mineral resources.
That said, it does look as though it locks out others from making similar deals.
The KOS take:
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The US/Ukraine Bilateral Agreement (the mineral deal) is worthless! Which makes it brilliant.
I’ve never been so excited to see so little out of an agreement. The Kyiv Independent has the full text here and this is one of those times it’s really important to see what it actually says versus what is reported about it. It’s not that long so I...www.dailykos.com
Did they do blowjobs?It put me in mind of Paisley and McGuinness.