President Trump

AlexWilliamsGloves said:
Unfortunately I think the UK was already seduced…the result of which was Brexit. One of the first stages to the current shitshow we are seeing in the US. Russia don’t necessarily need nukes when they can wreak havoc on other countries through media manipulation.
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Agreed but what we have to do now is learn from that and ensure we avoid compounding the situation further.
 
It's sickening that Zelensky has had to offer this olive branch. But, as others have said, this is calling his bluff. If he refuses this then any lingering notion that he is uncompromised will evaporate. If he doesn't restore support after this, then I hope there's a sniper placed on every fucking street corner the **** visits, and I hope they're more adept than the previous idiot.

It would be beautiful if the democrats boycotted his address tonight.
 
AlexWilliamsGloves said:
Unfortunately I think the UK was already seduced…the result of which was Brexit. One of the first stages to the current shitshow we are seeing in the US. Russia don’t necessarily need nukes when they can wreak havoc on other countries through media manipulation.
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The breakup of the EU (albeit only UK so far) and the potential breakup of NATO would go down as a good job well done in Putin's World.
Sweet revenge he would see for bringing down the Warsaw Pact.

Agent Boris and Agent Trump doing the damage.
 
Ashton Moss Messi said:
The breakup of the EU (albeit only UK so far) and the potential breakup of NATO would go down as a good job well done in Putin's World.
Sweet revenge he would see for bringing down the Warsaw Pact.

Agent Boris and Agent Trump doing the damage.
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After his comments on the EU, it confirmed to me that one of the goals is to de-establish the EU. That’s not the US, btw, but more of those global rich who have access to influence.

When we saw those 007 movies of ultra rich, mafia type people, sat around the table planning their dastardly deeds, we thought that it was just fictional. Maybe we should have taken it as a warning.
 
gordondaviesmoustache said:
The way this **** is behaving is so tediously predictable.

Imagine a sociopathic, career armed robber, being put on trial for robbing a bank, and not only having the case thrown out, but also being told by the court before he walked out that he couldn’t be convicted of any bank robberies for the next four years.

How do people expect that is going July hi to manifest itself? The answer for the hard of thinking is that he’s going to rob banks for the next four years.

That’s exactly what happening here. The **** thinks he’s untouchable, because he basically is. And the American people have enabled that.

It’s beyond insane.
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The Future’s Blue! said:
After his comments on the EU, it confirmed to me that one of the goals is to de-establish the EU. That’s not the US, btw, but more of those global rich who have access to influence.

When we saw those 007 movies of ultra rich, mafia type people, sat around the table planning their dastardly deeds, we thought that it was just fictional. Maybe we should have taken it as a warning.
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When I read that I get a mental picture of Dr Evil, fat bastard, No.2 and random task sat round a table, haha random task - classic
 
The Future’s Blue! said:
When we saw those 007 movies of ultra rich, mafia type people, sat around the table planning their dastardly deeds, we thought that it was just fictional. Maybe we should have taken it as a warning.
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Mar-a-Lago is a great name for a Bond villains hideout tbf.

And Elon Musk is also a great name for a Bond villain.
 
I blame JFK for the events that finally led to the state we are in now. Had he Trumplike reflexes he could have just suffered a grazed ear.
 
Trump, as a symbol of American populism, finds his main adversaries within the establishment. Engaging in conflicts with Russia and China is more likely to bring him troubles rather than benefits. This is even more evident in the case of his close ally, Elon Musk. For Musk, a main theme of his political involvement is the defense of traditional values. In the context of "traditional values," China and Russia might even be seen as sharing common ground with the moderate American right-wing. Indeed, from the perspective of Chinese values, many of Musk's viewpoints appear quite reasonable.

The challenge lies in the fact that within the United States, there is a lack of narrative that fosters friendly relations with China and Russia. While Trump's supporters are indeed opposed to the establishment, their worldview is largely shaped by the narratives propagated by establishment media. They need water, but they fear it. This leaves Trumpists isolated within the broader framework of international relations. The ideological struggle that Musk desires, if likened to the Cold War of the past, would place China, Russia, and the United States on the same side of the Iron Curtain, with Europe and the retreating American establishment on the other side. However, due to the absence of a narrative within the United States that can shape this scenario, such an alliance cannot be formed. Consequently, China and Russia are unlikely to respond positively to the Trump administration. Indeed, you can observe China maintaining a cautious and watchful distance.

Therefore, at least within the framework of international relations, it is difficult for Trump to succeed. During the Cold War, the framework of international relations could be understood as the United States, the Soviet Union, and China as the third camp. The United States successfully allied with China, accelerating the Soviet Union's downfall. In today's international landscape, Trump should have sought to build connections with China and Russia. However, it now appears more likely that China will not choose to respond to this new framework. Instead, China is more inclined to establish ties with Europe. This is easy to understand: if China enthusiastically embraced Trump's new game and consequently found itself at odds with Europe, would the United States have the capacity to sustain this new game in the long term?

From the perspective of an individual Chinese person's values, we hope that Musk can succeed. However, from a realist viewpoint, the success of both Trump and Musk seems unlikely. There is a conflict between strategic choices and personal values. For now, we are adopting a wait-and-see attitude. And I predict that, in the end, we will have no choice but to accept reality.
 
DT is surpassing himself in levels of smugness and Vance going beyond even his own previous sycophancy.
 
The Future’s Blue! said:
After his comments on the EU, it confirmed to me that one of the goals is to de-establish the EU. That’s not the US, btw, but more of those global rich who have access to influence.

When we saw those 007 movies of ultra rich, mafia type people, sat around the table planning their dastardly deeds, we thought that it was just fictional. Maybe we should have taken it as a warning.
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Yep. A lot of pointing to Russia on the Brexit vote and trying to destabilise the EU, but not so much about the country that all of these social media platforms are based, who actually controls the algorithms. The American corporate elite might be a bit annoyed that there's a powerful organisation out there that regularly stands up to them and tells them they can't do things, and gives the sort of massive fines the US should be giving but doesn't have the balls to.
 
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