Andy Burnham | Manchester Mayor

No it’s not what they are doing & if you worked in property you’d know that. They are lobbying for land that they own which is currently worthless to them to have infrastructure paid for by the government so that it then becomes valuable.
This is the fundamental question for me. Can they only build this new stadium if the Freightliner terminal is moved or do they already own the land they're planning to build on?

I get the impression that the move of the terminal is a necessary precursor for the stadium build. If that's the case then the £300m is clearly a contribution to the construction of a new stadium, however it's dressed up. If it's so important to move the terminal for reasons not associated with a new stadium then why wasn't it done years ago?
 
Burnham needs to shut the fuck up and concentrate fully on sorting out the shambles that the taking back control of the buses has become. Short of drivers, buses cancelled at short notice leaving up to 90 minutes for the next one, often at peak times when people are trying to get home after a day's work. Unacceptable!
Give over - you mean taking back businesses into the Public domain (where's there's little to no knowledge of how to run it currently) hasn't been a raving success. Quelle surprise!!
 
@Citi-leaks

As you seem to be championing this farce please answer 2 questions.
When the rail freight yard is moved , will the rags pay for the land or will it be given to them
Who will pay for the industrial clean up of it before building work can commence.
Do we have to bother with that bit - it'll be infested with rats when the stadiums complete so might help with control ;)
 
This is the fundamental question for me. Can they only build this new stadium if the Freightliner terminal is moved or do they already own the land they're planning to build on?

I get the impression that the move of the terminal is a necessary precursor for the stadium build. If that's the case then the £300m is clearly a contribution to the construction of a new stadium, however it's dressed up. If it's so important to move the terminal for reasons not associated with a new stadium then why wasn't it done years ago?

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This is the fundamental question for me. Can they only build this new stadium if the Freightliner terminal is moved or do they already own the land they're planning to build on?

I get the impression that the move of the terminal is a necessary precursor for the stadium build. If that's the case then the £300m is clearly a contribution to the construction of a new stadium, however it's dressed up. If it's so important to move the terminal for reasons not associated with a new stadium then why wasn't it done years ago?

Clear & organised.
 
This is the fundamental question for me. Can they only build this new stadium if the Freightliner terminal is moved or do they already own the land they're planning to build on?

I get the impression that the move of the terminal is a necessary precursor for the stadium build. If that's the case then the £300m is clearly a contribution to the construction of a new stadium, however it's dressed up. If it's so important to move the terminal for reasons not associated with a new stadium then why wasn't it done years ago?
100% it's disguised as government funded and the fact that the owners/major shareholders are billionaires yet are not putting in 1p says everything.
 
The sponsorship deal has now been ended. Scruffy Jim and Ineos have paid Spurs a few million pounds to end the sponsorship deal.

And Inside Sport has been told a deal has been agreed which sees Ineos paying a ‘not insignificant sum’ thought to be in the millions to end the deal.(which could have gone towards the money for the freight terminal land)


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The sponsorship deal has now been ended. Scruffy Jim and Ineos have paid Spurs a few million pounds to end the sponsorship deal.

And Inside Sport has been told a deal has been agreed which sees Ineos paying a ‘not insignificant sum’ thought to be in the millions to end the deal.(which could have gone towards the money for the freight terminal land)


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There have been a lot of rumours on the F1 scene that all is not well with the Ineos/Mercedes/Toto Wolff ownership model, stories that Mercedes were trying to buy out Ineos 1/3 rd share, at the moment the stories have been denied but there does appear to be issues at Ineos and their share/profit situation is getting serious, it's seems an empire built on sand.
 
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It's also worth noting that City themselves did not pay for the initial build, only the conversion to a football ground - and United won't get public money to build their new home, it seems, whereas City inherited a stadium that was already built for another purpose.

But City have not stood still, either. They renegotiated the terms of their lease of the stadium, paying an annual rent to Manchester Council, and added around 9,000 seats to the South Stand in 2014. An extra 6,000 seats to the opposite end is under construction and planned to open in 2026 at a cost of £300m.

Those plans include a huge hotel, fan zone, club shop, museum and hospitality areas, with the club calling the stadium and surrounding areas the 'entertainment district'. That is because the Co-op Live arena opened last year at a cost of over £400m (£100m more than initial plans), with City owners the City Football Group co-owners of that project.

 
Surely Andy Burnham, Seb Coe, Kier Starmer, Rachel Reeves, and the rest of the rabble, including Gary Neville, haven't ignored this financial warning about Scruffy Jim and Ineos?

Concerns Mount as Debt Surges at Sir Jim Ratcliffe’s Chemicals Empire.​

Ratings agencies have revised their outlook for Ineos Group to 'negative' due to the crisis affecting the tycoon's sporting interests.

Sir Jim Ratcliffe is encountering increasing apprehensions regarding the financial stability of his chemicals enterprise, as projections indicate that its debt could approach nearly €12 billion (£10 billion) this year. Concurrently, his sporting ventures, which include Manchester United and New Zealand rugby, are reaching a critical juncture.

 
Surely Andy Burnham, Seb Coe, Kier Starmer, Rachel Reeves, and the rest of the rabble, including Gary Neville, haven't ignored this financial warning about Scruffy Jim and Ineos?

Concerns Mount as Debt Surges at Sir Jim Ratcliffe’s Chemicals Empire.​

Ratings agencies have revised their outlook for Ineos Group to 'negative' due to the crisis affecting the tycoon's sporting interests.

Sir Jim Ratcliffe is encountering increasing apprehensions regarding the financial stability of his chemicals enterprise, as projections indicate that its debt could approach nearly €12 billion (£10 billion) this year. Concurrently, his sporting ventures, which include Manchester United and New Zealand rugby, are reaching a critical juncture.



I don't consider myself that savvy in the world of finance and business structuring but 12 billion quid in debt seems an awful lot of debt.
 
The Glazer's are skint.
Scruffy Jim is skint.
Neville is skint.
United is skint.
The Government is skint.
And they want the tax payer to pay £200mil-£300mill to move freight terminal trains to St Helen's.
And then use more tax payers money to buy the Trafford freight terminal land, remediate it, and prepare it for the stadium construction.
 

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