PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

wolviedinho said:
It wasn’t long ago that you were telling everyone on talksport that Chelsea would have to sell most of their squad to comply with the financial rules. All the while Chelsea were selling hotels to themselves.
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So he was right then (unless you think he could have anticipated that Chelsea were going to sell their hotel & women's team to comply with PSR).
 
Lost for words said:
Sky and especially Neville and Caragher were warned not to 'speculate on the outcome of the verdict presumably to keep Sky out of legal action, but it doesn't stop clickbait sites clogging up the inbox with the same old done-to-death tales if what would City's punishments would be if the worst was to happen. Never do these sites speculate the repercussions if City win the case, but that is far too boring for such simple.minds.

The problem that will remain is that these sites are probably based in Gibraltar and are out of touch with the capacity to dig up more and more perceived dirt.

All this may go on for years yet.
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unfortunately its only us city fans that are interested in us being not guilty. so the media prefers to jump on the bandwagon off us guilty, as all the morons want that outcome
 
Shaelumstash said:
When you say “fail to produce the goods”, what exactly are you asking them to produce?

It’s very clear Tolmie and Stefan have access to contacts and hear information that most people don’t.

That’s why City fans on Bluemoon are way more informed on transfers and financial matters regarding City than fans who don’t come on here.

And it’s why Tolmie and Stefan constantly get the most engagement.

But asking them to “produce the goods” on who their sources are is just completely nonsensical! For what reason? To appease some blokes on Bluemoon?

The irony being, if they “produced the goods” and leaked their sources, then we’d all be less well informed than we are now.

Even people with a direct line to Khaldoon won’t get everything right. Deals fall apart, things change. Just because everything they say doesn’t come true, doesn’t mean they don’t have genuine info.

There are clearly some posters who claim to know stuff just for attention. But they’re pretty easy to spot.

But judge Tolm and Stefan on their records. The boards are lucky to have them. Constantly begging them to reveal their contacts is just going to end up chasing them away and making us all less informed.
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If it’s those two he was referring to, then agreed 100%.
 
Lost for words said:
Sky and especially Neville and Caragher were warned not to 'speculate on the outcome of the verdict presumably to keep Sky out of legal action, but it doesn't stop clickbait sites clogging up the inbox with the same old done-to-death tales if what would City's punishments would be if the worst was to happen. Never do these sites speculate the repercussions if City win the case, but that is far too boring for such simple.minds.

The problem that will remain is that these sites are probably based in Gibraltar and are out of touch with the capacity to dig up more and more perceived dirt.

All this may go on for years yet.
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They were warned but the very next day Carragher was shouting "time barred" and Sky seemed fine leaving it in the edit as opposed to when he said "cooking the books" when Big Steve was last on that show
 
wolviedinho said:
I didn’t say you make stuff up but you are not right all the time.

It wasn’t long ago that you were telling everyone on talksport that Chelsea would have to sell most of their squad to comply with the financial rules. All the while Chelsea were selling hotels to themselves. Again, only people residing in the inner circle of Chelsea knew what the club was doing to avoid sanctions.

It is boring that some posters claim to have info but fail to produce the goods when questioned as to it’s legitimacy and authenticity.

You can’t know the inner working at City. So although you may have won a point on pep’s use of language, the overall argument still stands. Iv worked with plenty of people like yourself in the past. Carry on being rude and I will respond in kind.

It is boring, il agree to that and move on.
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I never said they would have to sell most of their squad. I explained how far short they were. As they were. Did you miss the bit where they have sold £300m of players in the last 2 windows? The sale of the hotel should never have been permitted but I explained, correctly, the parameters and that their trading was out. Nothing on any video about Chelsea is wrong - you either didn't listen or didn't understand it.

No idea what City's inner workings have to do with anything (although I have a fairly good idea on the relevant bits here). No idea what "fail to produce the goods" means - I would never divulge confidential information or the source of such information. Only a moron would. And an untrustworthy one.

You didn't understand the post you responded to, with an attack, but continue to double down with pointless, shit responses. Embarrassing.
 
Shaelumstash said:
When you say “fail to produce the goods”, what exactly are you asking them to produce?

It’s very clear Tolmie and Stefan have access to contacts and hear information that most people don’t.

That’s why City fans on Bluemoon are way more informed on transfers and financial matters regarding City than fans who don’t come on here.

And it’s why Tolmie and Stefan constantly get the most engagement.

But asking them to “produce the goods” on who their sources are is just completely nonsensical! For what reason? To appease some blokes on Bluemoon?

The irony being, if they “produced the goods” and leaked their sources, then we’d all be less well informed than we are now.

Even people with a direct line to Khaldoon won’t get everything right. Deals fall apart, things change. Just because everything they say doesn’t come true, doesn’t mean they don’t have genuine info.

There are clearly some posters who claim to know stuff just for attention. But they’re pretty easy to spot.

But judge Tolm and Stefan on their records. The boards are lucky to have them. Constantly begging them to reveal their contacts is just going to end up chasing them away and making us all less informed.
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U don’t need to come to his defence mate. It’s only a forum.

Anyone with real factual information can post it here anonymously.The leaks stuff is childish and boring. Don’t know why you brought TH into anyway.

I expected a pile in as this is how the forum works.

The point remains, posters on the board do not know the inner working at city. Certainly not the level khaldoon operates and to pretend otherwise is wrong.

I am entitled to question a post just as you are doing now. I have not been rude in doing so.

Iv moved on from it already.
 
It’s a media witch hunt , which is tiresome to say the least ,Carragher spits on someone and is slagging this club off on a daily basis ? He should have been fired full stop , it’s just one small example of how fucked the whole reporting of football is , it’s through every single crevice of the media , it’s literally fucked , I hope we take that **** to the cleaners very soon , with his fucking protruding slavering mouth , we take this shit every single day as a fanbase , our day will come , I couldn’t care a shite if we never win anything again if it shuts him up and the other cunts who downplay this club on a daily basis.
Anyway , rant over , I want this club to go for the kill when it’s all over.
We will never get the plaudits we deserve. It’s a good ten seasons that the wankers at Sky et al will ignore when talked about as the best club side this country has seen.
 
wolviedinho said:
U don’t need to come to his defence mate. It’s only a forum.

Anyone with real factual information can post it here anonymously.The leaks stuff is childish and boring. Don’t know why you brought TH into anyway.

I expected a pile in as this is how the forum works.

The point remains, posters on the board do not know the inner working at city. Certainly not the level khaldoon operates and to pretend otherwise is wrong.

I am entitled to question a post just as you are doing now. I have not been rude in doing so.

Iv moved on from it already.
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Pretty obviously you misunderstood the post and used it as an opportunity to call me a liar. You replied to me. Remember that.
 
slbsn said:
I never said they would have to sell most of their squad. I explained how far short they were. As they were. Did you miss the bit where they have sold £300m of players in the last 2 windows? The sale of the hotel should never have been permitted but I explained, correctly, the parameters and that their trading was out. Nothing on any video about Chelsea is wrong - you either didn't listen or didn't understand it.

No idea what City's inner workings have to do with anything (although I have a fairly good idea on the relevant bits here). No idea what "fail to produce the goods" means - I would never divulge confidential information or the source of such information. Only a moron would. And an untrustworthy one.

You didn't understand the post you responded to, with an attack, but continue to double down with pointless, shit responses. Embarrassing.
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Thanks for responding. Let’s agree you are right and move on. How’s that?

I couldn’t care less tbh. Maybe you missed my point?

Better watch my back or a ban will be on the way -:)

Overall, regardless of this tit for tat. I do enjoy the segments on talksport.

Leave it at that shall we.
 
I wouldn't engage , so much though I shouldn't be offering advice ( for free)

Just post your very relevant knowledgeable insights and leave it be.
 
This is what I heard last night from an Arsenal fan.

We are state owned, are guilty of 105 charges, he has no idea what we were charged with as apparently nobody talks about it, have gone from a provincial club to one of the wealthiest in the world, have no fan base because a mate of his living on the Isle of Wight got a ticket to FA Cup final last season and our CL win last season, we are owned by the Saudis and what will happen when the petrol runs out. Not sure how I kept a straight face when I presented him with an empty bottle of water. That’s what we are up against when it comes to other fans. When we are found not guilty we are all going to have a field day.
 
Rory Bluelow said:
I think that was more about the spin Sky chose to put on Ceferin’s comments rather than the actual substance of his words.When City flirted with the Super League I recall Ceferin being especially disappointed.
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the original interview with the Telegraph provided the spin I think -
www.telegraph.co.uk

Pep Guardiola hits back at Aleksander Ceferin for Manchester City ‘guilty’ claims

In an exclusive interview with Telegraph Sport, the Uefa president said ‘we know we were right’ about City’s FFP guilt
www.telegraph.co.uk www.telegraph.co.uk
 
wolviedinho said:
U don’t need to come to his defence mate. It’s only a forum.

Anyone with real factual information can post it here anonymously.The leaks stuff is childish and boring. Don’t know why you brought TH into anyway.

I expected a pile in as this is how the forum works.

The point remains, posters on the board do not know the inner working at city. Certainly not the level khaldoon operates and to pretend otherwise is wrong.

I am entitled to question a post just as you are doing now. I have not been rude in doing so.

Iv moved on from it already.
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Of course you’re entitled to question a post. If everyone agreed, there wouldn’t be a forum.

I was more calling out the folly of asking Stefan or Tolmie to reveal their sources.

It just doesn’t make any sense, for the reasons I suggested.

My intention wasn’t to be rude.

By all means disagree with what Stefan says.

The reason I “leapt to his defence” is because I’ve seen genuine ITK’s like Tolmie take a step back from the board because of the constant hassle from people asking him to reveal his sources.

It makes the board a worse place if don’t get access to that info.

It’s obviously a precarious time for all blues. I’m feeling pretty upbeat and confident this time around. Especially compared with CAS.

I feel like Bluemoon is easily the best source for qualified analysis of the case, and Stefan, Petrusha and Prestwich Blue give us far better insight than the press.

We’d all be less informed if any of them sacked it off because they couldn’t be arsed dealing with people questioning their sources.
 
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