PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

Think you are linking too many things at the same time here.

We are yet to see what, if anything happens re Chelsea with regard to the matters that were self reported. Of course I have read the articles in the press but we simply don’t know the extent of what Chelsea’s new owners uncovered or more relevant the completeness it could be everything reported in the press but at the same time it could be far more. We simply don’t know.

The point remains that the new new owners and therefore almost certainly the PL won’t have been able to access to our ex owner or his records to conduct a full investigation add to that as you well know from your background if you don’t grant concessions when people self report you are in grave danger that issues uncovered by current or even future owners will remain hidden if there is no advantage by coming clean indeed we have absolutely no idea what skeletons are in other clubs closets.

Do I you think for one second Chelsea would have self reported if RA was still the owner? No i certainly don’t so at this stage Chelsea if they hadn’t self reported would following the leaks be looking at some point of charges akin to Cities.


When it comes inter club transactions of course they should be disallowed when it comes to PSR but as Stephan points out the clubs made a conscious decision not to ban them. The fact that they won’t count when it comes to FFP sort of suggests that they may well have ploughed on with them regardless that said the tariffs structure published by UEFA isn’t really that much of a deterrent.

The hotels from my limited understanding based on location / land value % occupancy etc seemed to be high valuation wise but not unreasonable however the information re the woman’s team seem crazy valuation but the mechanism is there to challenge but just like your owners ours are far from novices when it comes to money matters so no doubt will have their justifications already lined up

Who knows but what we do know is that even after UEFa and indeed the PL stepped into restrict the length a transfer fee can be amortised Chelsea still are handing out contracts in excess of 5 years so they may have carried out these transactions irrespective . We simply don’t know

Bohley and company aren’t getting close to the best press that’s for sure but there again most clubs supporters genuinely believe their clubs receive unfair treatment. I am far from blinkered in this regard and feel many of the press reports have a certain merit but certainly not all of them

As for City I don’t actually think this has anything to do with your owners colour, your owners background or anything it’s down to a quirk in British thinking in that we for some reason we like the plucky underdog and don’t like winners my take is the press here feed on that narrative and will do everything it can to tap into that negativity and in a blink of an eye the whole nation ( save fans associated with the club being hammered) buys into that school of thought.

As I said earlier If RA was still our owner would it be right to say we were being treated differently because he is a Jew ? Of course not

If you weren’t winning things you would be termed almost plucky or a great role model a bit like Brighton or come to that Bournemouth both who have used the rules to their advantage one running up hugely beneficial owner loans the other writing off huge ownership loans but to a large degree their other indiscretions go un reported and in the case of Brighton there have been some interesting other matters that didn’t even get a line in the national press.

Of course the PL have had to investigate the Chelsea matters if you read my postings on this forum re this I have always said I expect a sanction of some sort indeed it was me that flagged up months before there was a suggestion in the press that it might actually not result in charges but be settled by settlement.

It’s easy to think that I am suggesting that Chelsea should be treated differently but what has gone on at Chelsea’s treatment is different for one simple reason and that’s because the PL once RA sold up will not have had the same ability to conduct a complete investigation.
Mate, could you look into the use of commas?
 
In fairness, City are accused of lying. Chelsea have carried all this out in plain sight.
What about when Abramovich was the owner of Chelsea; he was definitely lying, surely?
Why would the PL cartel not instigate an investigation - after all, one might surmise that Chelsea have only admitted it now because they knew they couldn't hide it?
 
In fairness, City are accused of lying. Chelsea have carried all this out in plain sight.

It is the off book payments that Chelsea have admitted that require sanction but I sense the appetite has gone and, amazingly, the other clubs appear fairly relaxed.
I’ve forgotten the numbers now but in the post Abramovic settlement with HMG, Chelsea have effectively had a sanction free huge injection of owner money.
 
Because they won the champions league a few years ago!

Not sure how you are invited to the tournament but that's why they're there
It's unbelievable how they failed to shoehorn Liverpool & United in there, someone's going to get sacked.
 
Off the books payments to Hazzard and others.

Much more direct link to your success than our success via alleged wrong doing through sponsorships.

Also when you think about it what we are accused of is more the lying than the figures being too high revenue to high.

Look at PSG Qatari deals way over inflated but not an issue as fair market value is subjective and the authorities don’t want a fight.

If we have done what’s alleged we would have been better coming to a deal with the sponsors inflating the deals but declaring them as related party or something.

It’s partly why I don’t think we have done anything

You say they reported off the book payments to Hazzard. That actually isn’t what we have been told. The leaks said RA made a payment to Hazards agent. Dodgy yep but not quite the same. Of course the Cyprus leaks posed some challenges deep ones at that but the claim isn’t fully that Chelsea made off the book payments it’s that RA made payments that potentially should have been made by the club or in certain cases not at all.

When it comes to City the case is clearly incredibly complex hence why it’s taken so long to conclude
 
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What is want to know is who gives a fuck about Chelsea?

Couldn't care less about them. They are irrelevant to us and this thread.
The contrasting response of the football media and authorities towards MCFC and CFC underline that the investigations into City are a consequence of a “clear and organized attempt” to smear and damage the club. Quite clearly rival clubs have been searching long and hard for any grounds whatsoever to screw MCFC.
 
A positive headline soon gives way to Richard Keys 'analysis' that the verdict will be fudged in our favour due to political interference.


He is a dick.
I’d say the #1 indicator that you’re on the right side of any discourse in football is that you’re disagreeing with what whatever that bellend is saying.
 
The contrasting response of the football media and authorities towards MCFC and CFC underline that the investigations into City are a consequence of a “clear and organized attempt” to smear and damage the club. Quite clearly rival clubs have been searching long and hard for any grounds whatsoever to screw MCFC.
TBF, ours only exploded when the PL announced the charges, which were always coming after the UEFA charges. Nobody knows what's going on with Chelsea at the moment. The PL have been rather busy of late :)
 
The contrasting response of the football media and authorities towards MCFC and CFC underline that the investigations into City are a consequence of a “clear and organized attempt” to smear and damage the club. Quite clearly rival clubs have been searching long and hard for any grounds whatsoever to screw MCFC.
The PL have launched a fishing expedition going back 15 years to a period before FFP existed. They have never done this with any other club. They have also been found to have acted unfairly and unlawfully by a panel of three Judges in the APT case. An utter disgrace and pure bad faith.
 

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