PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

Apparently it's about this lady:


"She is married to Yanis Varoufakis, former Greek finance minister and economist. Her mother is Eleni Potaga-Stratou, a Greek modern artist, and her father is Phaidron Stratos from the Stratos family, who founded the Peiraiki-Patraiki textile industry in Patras, Peloponnese, at one time Greece’s largest textile industry.<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danae_Stratou#cite_note-8"><span>[</span>8<span>]</span></a>
I initially read that as meaning Danae was KS55's 'the one that got away...'
 
he out of all those involved will have a better idea of how we have done, it can be dressed up to which way your mood swings, he's sacked the case off and moved on because we have no hope or he's done and dusted and not putting any work into a possible appeal as there wont be one because we are expecting to be 100% cleared
lol.... well that puts a cap on it and clears things up nicely
 
I don’t know why people think the verdict is due, there’s not been any indication that it is.

When the date for the hearing was set, there was a body of expert opinion from people suggesting that March would be the time for the verdict. Looking back, I think this was driven by the idea that it offered a realistic timeframe for the hearing to take place and for a lengthy document to be written up substantiating the Panel's reasoning, while serving the objective of coming early enough for any punishment to take effect this season.

I'm not sure that latter point would have been a certainty even with a March verdict, given that there'll be a separate and later hearing to determine any sanctions that may be necessary together with potential for appeals. However, I think that was the logic at the outset and I'm sure the Panel members have been left in no doubt that the parties would welcome as prompt a resolution as they can manage.

I think many of us assumed for that reason that March was a good bet, but they'll quite rightly follow an approach of taking whatever time they think they need to perform the task allotted to them. They've evidently given no guarantees to anyone regarding how long that might be and, as a result, no one's sure.

I've been assuming all along, and I don't see myself as the only one to reckon so, that we'd have some prior notice of the fateful day being imminent when the draft award was circulated to the parties ahead of being issued. However, Stefan commented yesterday that he's been told MCFC expect the verdict to drop without it being circulated in advance. If that's right, then it could drop suddenly at any point.

Is it realistic for them to be ready at this stage, less than four months after the hearing concluded? Well, someone the other day posted the judgment from a 2022 case on similar subject matter and it took over six months from the end of the hearing for that document to be released. Arguably, our case is a bit more complex, which would suggest we wouldn't hear until the summer.

On the other hand, the judgment in that case was circulated among the parties a month before it was issued. If it's correct here that the Panel are dispensing with this part of the process, it will save some time. And remember that, in the High Court, there's only one judge who has the task of writing up the decision while here the Panel can split the task between three of them.

TL, DR - Credible sources in effect suggest that no one save the Panel seems to know what's happening at the moment, so we should stop flapping and accept that the verdict will come when it comes. It's not unrealistic to think that day could now arrive quite quickly, but who knows? And if it's right that a draft won't be circulated (but it's an 'if'), we may receive minimal or virtually no warning. Whatever will be will be.
 
I personally like to know what the media are saying and how desperate they are ! As regards to clicks, given the main target audience the red cartel, some clicks by a few blue mooners is going to make little or no difference. If someone thinks differently then they don't have to click on it

There really isn't any point reading the most ridiculous speculation (ie. 99% of the stuff on F365), as they'll write any old shit and just make sure they include "IF" in one of the first sentences.

It's not news, it's nothing but fiction.
 
When the date for the hearing was set, there was a body of expert opinion from people suggesting that March would be the time for the verdict. Looking back, I think this was driven by the idea that it offered a realistic timeframe for the hearing to take place and for a lengthy document to be written up substantiating the Panel's reasoning, while serving the objective of coming early enough for any punishment to take effect this season.

I'm not sure that latter point would have been a certainty even with a March verdict, given that there'll be a separate and later hearing to determine any sanctions that may be necessary together with potential for appeals. However, I think that was the logic at the outset and I'm sure the Panel members have been left in no doubt that the parties would welcome as prompt a resolution as they can manage.

I think many of us assumed for that reason that March was a good bet, but they'll quite rightly follow an approach of taking whatever time they think they need to perform the task allotted to them. They've evidently given no guarantees to anyone regarding how long that might be and, as a result, no one's sure.

I've been assuming all along, and I don't see myself as the only one to reckon so, that we'd have some prior notice of the fateful day being imminent when the draft award was circulated to the parties ahead of being issued. However, Stefan commented yesterday that he's been told MCFC expect the verdict to drop without it being circulated in advance. If that's right, then it could drop suddenly at any point.

Is it realistic for them to be ready at this stage, less than four months after the hearing concluded? Well, someone the other day posted the judgment from a 2022 case on similar subject matter and it took over six months from the end of the hearing for that document to be released. Arguably, our case is a bit more complex, which would suggest we wouldn't hear until the summer.

On the other hand, the judgment in that case was circulated among the parties a month before it was issued. If it's correct here that the Panel are dispensing with this part of the process, it will save some time. And remember that, in the High Court, there's only one judge who has the task of writing up the decision while here the Panel can split the task between three of them.

TL, DR - Credible sources in effect suggest that no one save the Panel seems to know what's happening at the moment, so we should stop flapping and accept that the verdict will come when it comes. It's not unrealistic to think that day could now arrive quite quickly, but who knows? And if it's right that a draft won't be circulated (but it's an 'if'), we may receive minimal or virtually no warning. Whatever will be will be.
I still can't believe the club don't know exactly what the tribunal have decided.
 
he out of all those involved will have a better idea of how we have done, it can be dressed up to which way your mood swings, he's sacked the case off and moved on because we have no hope or he's done and dusted and not putting any work into a possible appeal as there wont be one because we are expecting to be 100% cleared
I don't know if we won or not but Pannick now only gets minor motoring offences and no win no fee compensation cases for wall insulation.
 
I still can't believe the club don't know exactly what the tribunal have decided.

Seems unlikely to me [that no draft judgment will be circulated] but that’s what I was told

This is a highly unusual case in terms of the degree of public interest. However, in normal circumstances lawyers and their clients don't usually get advance notice of what a court or tribunal has decided until a draft ruling is provided.

Could the abnormal degree of public interest be responsible for the Panel in this case dispensing with the circulation of a draft? Might they conclude that any comments and suggestions would make little material difference to the overall thrust but could result in leaks so isn't worth the trouble? After all, there are three extremely eminent Panel members, so the work of any of them can already be checked by two other extraordinarily gifted practitioners.
 
I personally like to know what the media are saying and how desperate they are ! As regards to clicks, given the main target audience the red cartel, some clicks by a few blue mooners is going to make little or no difference. If someone thinks differently then they don't have to click on it
I did have a quick look and it was in a letter from some KFA who reckoned we got the ban from European competition overturned at CAS "on a technicality".

Well I suppose that UEFA not actually having presented any cogent evidence to suggest we were guilty of what they'd accused us of classes as a "technicality".

The club's media team should have been much more aggressive about getting the message out there, in the face of the mendacity around 'technicalities', 'loopholes' and things like Conn's shameful twisting of the panel selection issue. But as usual it's failed in its duty to represent the club properly and left us to do that.
 
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I am still predicting Friday, 25th April 25 as the date for release because it is the 115th day of the year. Another unreliable source has told me that the report is finished but they are sitting on it until 25th
 
It’s mad all this. Bloody Ipswich and Leicester fans hanging on the decision hoping they have a chance of survival. Not to mention any team relegated in the past 15 years (or whatever it is) who think they’d be entitled to something.

Going to be chaos either way the decision falls, which I said right at the beginning. It’s either a team has been cheating and it’s taken 15 years to find out making a mockery of the PL, OR a team has been cheating and the PL can’t enforce their rules OR (as I think it will be) the PL have no idea what they were doing.
 
I did have a quick look and it was in a letter from some KFA who reckoned we got the ban from European competition overturned at CAS "on a technicality".

Well I suppose that UEFA not actually having presented any cogent evidence to suggest we were guilty of what they'd accused us of classes as a "technicality".
Trouble is, they get their ‘news’ from the usual sources who keep spouting the phrase ‘time barred’. Whenever they use that they almost always leave it open ended to suggest that we’d committed a huge number of provable offences and, if they hadn’t all been ‘time barred’ we’d have been banned for 100 years…..
 
It is. Top tune and they were fantastic when I saw them live for the first time in Sheffield a couple of years ago. Lucky enough to also have gotten tickets to see them at the Co-Op Live in June
I wasn't really that into them but my mate had a free ticket at the Nynex, seeing them live changed my opinion on them & Different Class is one of my favourite albums. I moved down south 23 years ago so the verse in Sorted for E,s & Wizz is quite ironic

'Cause I seem to have left an important part of my brain
Somewhere, somewhere in a field in Hampshire"
 

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