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waspish said:
Don't what's the problem for any government to put there country first as in there people buying there own made products? Other counties can do the same to any other Country! Someone explain to me why I'm wrong if I'm wrong?
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It's like playing chess looking at just the next obvious move, you don't look what disaster follows the blinkered action.
 
Blue Maverick said:
There is zero problem with it as long as those consumers in the west are happy to pay a lot higher prices for those products, sure as shit Brad in Oklahoma isn’t going to make Nike trainers for $1 an hour compared to Sum Yung Guy in Beijing, that’s what these mad bastards don’t realise everything will cost more if made at home because the west expect better wages and not slave wages. I mean when all the immigrants have gone from the usa who’s cutting their lawns for 50 cents an hour, no white man is.
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Yeah see that it's why prices have stayed pretty competitive in this country for so long till Covid and world going to shit was of immigration to our country! You seen the minimum wage in America though the federal one?
 
west didsblue said:
You’ve missed a word between “Don’t” and “what’s”.
You’ve misspelled “their” three times as “there”.
You’ve written “counties” instead of “countries”.

No need to thank me.
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Thanks I always tell myself to reread what I just wrote because of auto correct and then thinking the word I want is that
 
threespires said:
Shame Derbyshire is too professional to say "actually yeah feel to f**k off you gaslighting, grifting little troll". There is absolutely no point trying to conduct a sensible interview with the likes of Gorka, it's a complete waste of everyone's time.
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Probably not her call to make!

Clearly she knows that Gorka is going to do his usual and talk over her, but then will whine if she interrupts him, but can't do anything about who the White House make available.
I imagine there's an element of "sure, you tool, keep on being Gorka and let others interpret it". The deep breath she took in the middle and then the inevitable attack on the person from Gorka, rather than at arguments raised, was entirely predictable. He really doesn't like her, or maybe just someone contesting his polemic.

I bet she offers some blunt feedback to her producer!
 
roubaixtuesday said:
Just how dumb this tariff imposition is




Economists are struggling to even describe the sheer level of idiocy involved.
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It's bonkers, but I can see why it makes some vague sense to them. Trump has been banging on about 'tariffs', but he has mostly been describing trade deficits.

If the "theory" is that they think buying more stuff from a country than they sell is inherently bad, and that instead they should manufacture in the US - then the highest tariffs on the countries they are buying most from has a bizarre logic.

As many have pointed out - there's a reason that the poorest countries in the World are where all our clothes are made, and it's going to take a lot more than a few extra cents added to the cost of clothes from the far East, to make US clothing viable.

As someone said when the Signal security leaks came out: Now we know they're not just pretending to be stupid and ignorant in public.
 
bluenova said:
It's bonkers, but I can see why it makes some vague sense to them. Trump has been banging on about 'tariffs', but he has mostly been describing trade deficits.

If the "theory" is that they think buying more stuff from a country than they sell is inherently bad, and that instead they should manufacture in the US - then the highest tariffs on the countries they are buying most from has a bizarre logic.

As many have pointed out - there's a reason that the poorest countries in the World are where all our clothes are made, and it's going to take a lot more than a few extra cents added to the cost of clothes from the far East, to make US clothing viable.

As someone said when the Signal security leaks came out: Now we know they're not just pretending to be stupid and ignorant in public.
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That seems to be the argument, just put forward in a terrible way.

It may be that in 5 years the US manufacturing sites are up and running, it works out in some trade objects. It's not going to miraculously happen though, and certainly not overnight, which seems to be what is being sold to the public.

As you say, it's not going to apply on everything - why on earth is Sri Lanka going to import much from the US when it can be obtained cheaper and more locally.
 
roubaixtuesday said:
Just how dumb this tariff imposition is




Economists are struggling to even describe the sheer level of idiocy involved.
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So other countries are not really being protectionist and imposing tariffs directly on US goods (at least not to the levels that Trump claims). In reality these countries are being exploited by American companies who import cheap goods to meet US consumer demand. The main impact will surely be increased prices for US consumers and reduced demand, a lose-lose situation.

Since many of these countries probably import very few American products there is little they can do in terms of a direct response. However all the focus appears to be on trade in goods. What about services? I suspect almost every country in the world imports more in terms of US services than it exports. It seems that is where to respond and hurt them. Taxes on US services like media, financials, computing, etc.
 
JASR said:
The people of the Nederland will be feeling most aggrieved they’re lumped into EU.

Idiot bollox numbers for idiot consumption
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NL is down to the port of Rotterdam I think - ie not really NL, more overall EU.

Idiocy - for sure.
 
Oh, Hollywood Films, tv, music.
Charge utube for each viewing, double for Only Fannies. Hmmmm.
 
waspish said:
Don't what's the problem for any government to put there country first as in there people buying there own made products? Other counties can do the same to any other Country! Someone explain to me why I'm wrong if I'm wrong?
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You've got to ask yourself why people buy imports. Generally because your country doesn't have the capacity to manufacture the goods (that's the sort of thing you look to develop over decades, not days), or the goods can be made cheaper so are more affordable to the consumer.

Why do cars and car components move from US to Canada to Mexico and back? Because the car companies see that as the best, most effective, most efficient way of produce an end product.

Also you look at the countries exporters, no doubt they will be hit with reciprocal tariffs which will make it much harder for them to survive.

Tariffs as a rule aren't the worst thing, if they're targeted and if they're planned.

This is just a shitshow.
 
Looked like he was seeing the figures for the very first time when reading then out. Laughing at the Cambodian one for example.
 
From time to time, I read articles from Fox News to gauge MAGA reaction to current events.

This time I wondered what MAGA thinks of all these crazy tariffs. I gauge MAGA sentiment by reading comments at the bottom of the articles I read.
www.foxnews.com

GOP defectors help Senate advance resolution to cancel Trump tariffs despite White House veto warning

The Senate voted on a resolution to undo Trump’s tariffs against Canada on Wednesday, and some Republicans went on record opposing the president.
www.foxnews.com www.foxnews.com

Somewhat unexpectedly, MAGA are gung-ho, enthusiastically in support of the tariffs. Lets see how they feel about the tariffs in a few months time when the economy craters.
 
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